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Well sure, if money isn't a problem... I was going from the options he listed, had he asked about a 3930k I'd definitely recommend it - I love mine. But I don't control his budget, was just trying to get him the best advice based on what he listed.

Agreed there.

But yeah, generally: if your PC is crappy and you can't bear it any longer, buy an IB now.
If your PC is crappy but you can hold on a month of misery more, buy an IB in a month. Prices will have dropped plus Intel should have a revised version by then, I think.

If your PC is good or great, on the other hand... don't bother, unless you're somewhat of a "I wanna have the best of the best no matter the cost"-kinda guy.
 
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I don't think many common gamers care about power consumption, though.
I think the performance of the CPU far outweighs the CPU's power consumption.

Yeah but anyone getting a new rig will buy Z77, and to make full use of its features you need IB. So gamers are better off buying IB, the performance between SB and IB is negligible at most.
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Yeah but anyone getting a new rig will buy Z77, and to make full use of its features you need IB. So gamers are better off buying IB, the performance between SB and IB is negligible at most.

For gamers who leave their CPU at stock speed, agreed.
For gamers who wanna game with an overclocked CPU (and since we're on OC.NET, I assume that's a good many users here), I dunno about IB yet... I like being able to get a 5GHz OC, but 100°C seems too steep a price to pay for that.
 
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if your a SB owner, i really dont see the point in upgrading based on these reviews. If your buying new to upgrade an old system though, you may aswell go for ivy bridge.

It was the same situation with iphone4 and 4s. No point if you were already an owner but if you weren't you may aswell get the newest model in hope that the new hardware will be put to use in the future. It might be worth the PCI-E 3.0 performance though, has anyone tested that yet with a 7970 or GTX 680?
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its not for me im good wink.gif
my friend gave me a 1500€ budget ...
so 100 € is not a problem but 200 might be...

That depends, I think, on the priorities of your friend.

If your friend is someone who's on his PC (figuratively speaking of course) 24/7, get IB because you'll never get a decent enough SB-E for only 1500€. I mean... Case, CPU, PSU, MoBo, GPU, and then you don't have a monitor, keyboard and mouse (and pad) yet. You might have to look quite hard for a high-end system for only 1500€.

If your friend is a fervent party-guy, definately get IB. If he isn't on his PC 24/7, it either means he hasn't got the time because he's working or partying, or his computer isn't that important a part in his life, in which case you should definately not go for SB-E because it's quite expensive and only meant for enthuisasts.
 
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wainting is pointless because new things are comming everyday almost right ....
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and then you don't have a monitor, keyboard and mouse (and pad) yet.
he was that ...

so with 1500€ for Case, CPU, PSU, MoBo, GPU and storage he can get a really nice rig. maybe not the most high ended but he can play some games for at least couple of year
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wainting is pointless because new things are comming everyday almost right ....
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and then you don't have a monitor, keyboard and mouse (and pad) yet.
he was that ...
so with 1500€ for Case, CPU, PSU, MoBo, GPU and storage he can get a really nice rig. maybe not the most high ended but he can play some games for at least couple of year

Go for IB if you know your friend isn't an overclocker.

If he wants to have SB-E with an option for IB-E later on, it means he wants top quality, and you're not gonna get top quality for only 1500€, I think.
Granted, you can go for a great MoBo combined with the (imo) crappy 3820 CPU, but why do that if you can just get IB for a lot less money and the same gaming experience? smile.gif

EDIT: to be honest, "new hardware comes out everyday"... not exactly. It's not like the next gen CPU will come tomorrow. OK, it comes a lot faster than the late nineties for example, but still, it's not like you can say "waiting is pointless because a new CPU will be made as early as tomorrow".
Edited by UltraVolta425 - 4/24/12 at 6:07am
 
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For gamers who leave their CPU at stock speed, agreed.
For gamers who wanna game with an overclocked CPU (and since we're on OC.NET, I assume that's a good many users here), I dunno about IB yet... I like being able to get a 5GHz OC, but 100°C seems too steep a price to pay for that.

You're kidding me right? You would rather have a SB CPU that does 5ghz at 1.42v without all the features and memory bandwidth IB has, than have an IB CPU that does 4.7 ghz at 1.25v?

EDIT: Even if all the factors (memory bandwidth, PCI-e 3.0 e.t.c) count for ~3-5 fps. add them together and you have a 10-15 fps gain, not to mention Lucid Virtu MVP which is only compatible with IB.
Edited by Klinkey - 4/24/12 at 6:16am
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You're kidding me right? You would rather have a SB CPU that does 5ghz at 1.42v without all the features and memory bandwidth IB has, than have an IB CPU that does 4.7 ghz at 1.25v?

They are trolls or don't understand the IPC improvements. 5GHz on sandy is not 5GHz on ivy.

IB at 4.7GHz is definitely superior, but not enough to warrant upgrading for sandy owners. As almost all the reviews say, If your not on sandy, go with ivy. Not to mention very few sandys actually get 5GHz 24/7, many people around here talk like it's normal. Average sandy gets about 4.7-4.8, and i've seen some not go past 4.6.

Golden chips aside, IB > SB even when overclocking. It's a safer bet for people on older processors.
Edited by Murlocke - 4/24/12 at 6:18am
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You're kidding me right? You would rather have a SB CPU that does 5ghz at 1.42v without all the features and memory bandwidth IB has, than have an IB CPU that does 4.7 ghz at 1.25v?

Eh, I wasn't talking about the voltages necessary to get that overclock. I was merely pointing out that IB gets really hot. I know I don't like hot CPUs, sounds a bit dangerous to me, so I wouldn't buy it. Yet.

I do like IB a lot, but it's just really hot in comparison to SB.

EDIT: Murlocke, I did read a couple of other reviews where they said "if you have a crappy PC, go for ivy."
That doesn't sound the same as "If you don't have Sandy, go for ivy."
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