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Hey everyone, So here is the deal, Building fast computers with all the works and tons of money thrown at it is easy for me, my home rig is a 2600k @ 5.0ghz, and a gtx 580 @ 1000mhz all watercooled, ssd, the works.

But my computer at work is super crappy, and my office won't provide me a new system.
( 2005 p4 with 2 gigs ram ) which does not even meet the programs minimal requirements.

I do CAD design work, and quite frankly, my computer is limiting my production speed, and that means I am not making as much money as I could.


So, I'm not allowed to have personal computers at work, but, whatever.

Basically, I'm really wanting a cheap build here,

basically My only requirements are at least a dual core ( only doing 2d work, no rendering ) and 4 gig ram ( no atom procs)
AMD or Intel on this build, i'm not too particular.

Since this is all coming out of pocket, I really need a sub $400 build, ( $300 if thats possible )

nothing fancy, no overclocking, etc.


Things I already have
- GPU ( Nvidia 8400GS slim profile, onboard will probably work fine for what I do (2d work only ) )
- HDD
- Mouse, keys, monitor, OS ( have to run XP )

So basically need
mo-bo
ram
proc
case/psu

I will not run a CD drive in this build, so as small as case as possible.

Smaller case is better, as it needs to be able to be hidden at work, But honestly, I would be just fine without running a case, and just making me a home made test bench from at home parts. ( and I could probably make it more compact than most mATX cases.


I really want to keep it as cheap as possible, because anthing more than $400, I would just go buy an OEM machine ( really thinking of grabing a mac mini and running XP on it, and mounting it to the back of my monitor ) ( if I go caseless, I may even try to build a monitor mountable test bench )

So thanks for looking, and awesome sauce if you guys can help.
post #2 of 7
Here are a couple of builds for you. $260 i3 build (Click to show)
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CPU: Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-VS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Apex SK-393-C ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $236.94
$325 i5 build (Click to show)
Part list permalink

CPU: Intel Core i5-2300 2.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-VS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Apex SK-393-C ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $311.94

Do you have a low profile bracket for that GPU, could it work in an ITX machine?
Here are some ITX builds $300 i3 ITX build (Click to show) $360 i5 ITX build (Click to show)
I put in 8GB of RAM because on my work PC I only have 4GB and I am constantly using a swap file. but that is because I have way too many things open... rolleyes.gif
Edited by Ironman517 - 4/23/12 at 12:40pm
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Wow, thanks +rep for sure.

Yeah, My current office has 2.5 gigs, and they are all different brands and speeds, and quite often if i have more than 4 or 5 drawings open, i'll start running into memory errors. I would add an SSD to my list, but all our files are stored on the server, so it really would not help that much.

Yes, I do have a low profile bracket for the GPU, so an iTX is possible.

( whats the difference between matx and itx? )

and for the itx, are 150w PSU good enough?
seems really shallow to my eyes, but again, i'm new to low power SFF machines.
Edited by Jixr - 4/23/12 at 12:46pm
post #4 of 7
SSDs are great for normal every day use, especially if you want to shut down your PC every night.

Crucial M4 is one of the best right now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Solid%20State%20Disk-_-Crucial-_-20148441&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=

A SSD will also help you when loading whatever programs you want on it.

Do you have 2.5" HDDs for the ITX build? You could just put a SSD in an ITX build and use the network storage. Would you be able to fit everything you need to on a 64GB SSD?
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Yes the hdd i was planning on using is 2.5, I have a SSD in my home rig, and 64gigs is plenty for xp, an SSD in this build is not really worth it, the only thing that would help would be start up and boot times, which is not worth the extra $100 since all the files are stored on the server, I will only be able to read files as fast as the server drives.

I think until I can get all this ordered up, i'm just going to bring in my old laptop and use that for now ( dual core 2.0, 4gigs ddr3 ram, 9800m ) and see how that goes. It may be enough to keep me working fast enough ( didn't have any trouble when using it for school ) but its about 4 years old now, but should be able to hold me over until i can build a usable cad machine that does not BSOD once a day.
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Since you have the 2.5" HDD an ITX build will be very nice and can be put out of sight. The Antec case I listed comes with a great 150W PSU which is PLENTY for this rig thumb.gif
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post #7 of 7
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Awesome, We are not allowed to have personal computers at work, so the smaller the better, we don't really have a true IT guy, and the guy who sets up the computers carries around a beeper, so i'm sure I'll be fine once I clone the HD from my work computer.
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