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And look at where all this emphasis on being "business men" has gotten us. As FX alluded to, the foundation of good business is innovation. If you can offer a new technology or provide a service in a new way you should be successful. Unfortunately, innovation is not what is taught any longer, profit mongering for profits sake is what is valued and taught.
OT: The whole thing is very misleading as they are really only consolidating the departments. Not really a big deal
lol, you mean allowing kids to express creativity which might lead new ideas or learning innovation like from those self-help books? are you disappointed that schools didn't teach you the secrets of being a great inventor?

4 steps to being innovative

1.???
2.???
3???
4.an idea that will earn you a million bucks
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lol, you mean allowing kids to express creativity which might lead new ideas or learning innovation like from those self-help books? are you disappointed that schools didn't teach you the secrets of being a great inventor?
4 steps to being innovative
1.???
2.???
3???
4.an idea that will earn you a million bucks

Creativity and innovation are a process, not the black magic you seem to think those abilities are
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And look at where all this emphasis on being "business men" has gotten us. As FX alluded to, the foundation of good business is innovation. If you can offer a new technology or provide a service in a new way you should be successful. Unfortunately, innovation is not what is taught any longer, profit mongering for profits sake is what is valued and taught.
OT: The whole thing is very misleading as they are really only consolidating the departments. Not really a big deal
lol, you mean allowing kids to express creativity which might lead new ideas or learning innovation like from those self-help books? are you disappointed that schools didn't teach you the secrets of being a great inventor?

4 steps to being innovative

1.???
2.???
3???
4.an idea that will earn you a million bucks

Not sure if serious or mocking? And no I am not disappointed, I had a very good education and continue to do so. I am just saying that the emphasis in education and in our society is misplaced. By teaching innovation I mean having a system which caters to and encourages free thought and creativity. Innovation also stems from the ability to think critically/analytically about a situation or problem and come up with an inventive way to deal with said issue. thumb.gif
 
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Oh, I'm sorry to hear the news.

You're really going to be on that high horse in the discussion of this article? rolleyes.gif
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Is this really surprising? This country (U.S.) has stopped prioritizing education appropriately. People care more about there "new" iPad, or iPhone 1.21 than the education of their future children or the advancement of the nation/world as a whole. The Sciences, including CSE, are vastly important to the advancement of our society and the technologies which help maintain said society, yet it is impossible to get our representatives to prioritize and promote these fields as they should be. As long as consumerism and $$Big Biz$$ run the U.S. things like this will continue to happen. End Rant. Sorry biggrin.gif

 

Get over yourself please.

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Sounds like something the University of Kentucky would do. They're the ones that pay their basketball coach 4.5625 million plus bonuses. They like to cut education, throw money into sports, and steadily raise tuition for the people actually trying to learn there.

Protip: go to a uni with a crap sports program. I bet their education is great.
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from a business standpoint i can see why this happened, going through computer science and various other courses here we started as a 40 person class down to 15, people just can't do it and drop out it ends up being a loss for the college or university.
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Sounds like something the University of Kentucky would do. They're the ones that pay their basketball coach 4.5625 million plus bonuses. They like to cut education, throw money into sports, and steadily raise tuition for the people actually trying to learn there.
Protip: go to a uni with a crap sports program. I bet their education is great.

Kentucky's is setup the same way as Florida, the Athletic Department budgets are independent from the academic side. They actually make money for their respective university's, a portion of the athletic money goes into academics. No money comes from academics and goes to athletics.
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from a business standpoint i can see why this happened, going through computer science and various other courses here we started as a 40 person class down to 15, people just can't do it and drop out it ends up being a loss for the college or university.

As a fellow CS major and undergraduate, I have come to this conclusion as well. I go to a top-5 party school and I can understand why 60% of my class has switched majors in the past 3 years I've been here. My department has some of the lowest GPA's on campus, but the highest job placement. When they see their Business, Journalism, and Communications friends not doing homework 20-25+ hours a week and instead going out and partying, getting 4.0's, and taking classes like Underwater Basketweaving and not multi-dimensional calculus or automata theory, then it is hard not to fall under the peer pressure to hang out with your friends and take the easy route. Sure they could be making the worst decision in their life if computer science was what they wanted to do, but kids our age seem to put more weight on the short-term benefits instead of the long term. Hold out friend, you're not alone. thumb.gif
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I am majoring in CS and I love it... a Month ago it was add / drop deadline for my school and around 34 student dropped CS class and switched major now we only have 20 in class .. part of it is due because students have 0 null background in CS , or could be bad teaching or taking short route and just wanting to get any degree and finish College without long term goals.. but my school is going to add more CS classes not less thank god biggrin.gif
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