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Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy View Post

Cheating bans are not the same as account bans and the writer of the article has little idea what they are talking about.
Bans for cheating stopped you playing online and didn't lock you out of your account.
Bansdue to suspected hacked steam accounts and the like were what locked you out.
The article would have you believe that simply giving details that you are the owner of your account will lift a cheating ban, but that's not the case at all.
It's not like Valve has the power to lock you out of your account for cheating in games that dont use Steamworks anyway is it?

He's correct. The writer literally had no idea what he's talking about.

Steam changed their policy on DISABLING accounts. They never "ban" accounts, just disabled them so you were locked out of them completely.

This new policy allows those who have a temporary account disable to still play there games. This issue normally occurs when people buy games from those cd key sites or cd keys from ebay. If you're legitimately buying your games and funds are not being held on say your Credit Card, then you're fine. I've personally have never had a issue of having my account disabled, not even temporarily.
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I'll say it again, cheating gets you punkbuster or VAC banned, and does not get your steam account banned.
I've actually had an account banned- someone gifted me a game on steam, which I accepted. It then turned out they used a stolen credit card or something, so steam banned my account. When I tried to get it back, they told me they needed a scan of a CD key from a game case, but the only game I had I bought online. So my account was left disabled and there wasn't anything I could do.
If I had a lot of games, that would have been a pretty bad scenario. At least under this new system, I would have been able to play GTA4 or skyrim if I had games like that, without having to repurchase them.

Screw that. I'd've just demanded they remove the offending game and give me account back.
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nah, they should just ban you from multiplayer game if you cheat, thats it.

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Block the multiplayer of that particular game they cheated on. No need to compromise, say Half Life 2, if they cheated in Counter Strike.
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Yeah if you cheat just block the MP of that game. No need to block all games.
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This, you can still play CSS if your VAC banned.

On non-VAC servers. Thats like being punished to FPS hell, the scary side of the internet. My original 2004 account was VAC-banned when I stupidly decided to try hacking for a day. I tried to play on non-VAC servers for a few weeks... its torture.
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I think its quite a good idea locking cheaters out of their account entirely as they did before. Really discourages cheating with the huge risk of losing all your stuff.

the problem with this was that people were banned because of language on forums or because there credit card reversed the charges on a purcahse. It actually had little to do with cheating. i Personally think anyone cheating should have that game online features banned for life. i have never, will never cheat. Why even bother to play the game then. makes no sense. i play to have fun, cheating is not fun lol
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My account is still VAC banned from CS 1.6 and TFC servers. I guess I need to read the article in full (when it decides it wants to load).
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My account is still VAC banned from CS 1.6 and TFC servers. I guess I need to read the article in full (when it decides it wants to load).

The article isn't about VAC bans at all, it's about having your account banned. If your account is banned, when you try to log into steam, it will tell you "this account has been disabled" or something like that.

The new policy is that when your account does get banned, instead of locking you out completely, they will let you play the games you already purchased. You will be locked out of any multiplayer I guess, but it's a hell of a lot better then loosing the account... especially since you don't really have to do anything "bad" to have your account banned (buying a game off ebay could do it).

(edit) Slightly poor choice of wording on my part, as the writer seemed to not quite understand what he was writing about, and thought cheating had something to do with it. I guess the article kinda is about VAC bans, but shouldn't be xD
Edited by Crazy9000 - 4/24/12 at 10:58am
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Like others previous have said...

VAC multiplayer cheating is just denial of VAC servers. This is what everyone rages about ie: map hacking, aim bot, etc...

Account Ban is a denial of account access. This is from people scamming others, committing fraud, stealing, harassing, theft of account, etc...

These are two different things. If your account gets banned and they ask for Identification it is probably because someone hijacked your account and was using it to commit fraud.

Article is confusing.
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