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Full account bans that occurred on Steam and Origin were too harsh, especially due to arguments with moderators on message boards.

Did that ever happen for Steam ? I thought only EA did that.
    
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Did that ever happen for Steam ? I thought only EA did that.

As I posted before in this thread, it does happen on steam and happened to me.
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As I posted before in this thread, it does happen on steam and happened to me.

Yep, use your right to a refund and Steam block your account. Which is wrong and ought to be illegal. :/
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Seems like there are allot of people commenting without actually reading the posts before them. I had my account disabled about 9 months ago due to someone hijacking it and purchasing games on it with stolen credit cards. I was on a gaming break and didn't even know it was disabled until I fired up steam and tried to log in. It took a bit of time going back and forth with customer service, showing proof of purchase for my games etc. but I got my account back (minus the games the hijacker purchased). I don't see how this new system is any different from what I did way back then. I doubt it is anywhere near illegal to lock someone completely out of an account. When you purchase games, like movies and music, you are only purchasing the right to play it and whatever the media it is stored on; you don't actually own the game, music or movie.

As far as I am concerned, in game cheaters should lose the game they cheated on but there needs to be a way to prove who is doing the cheating. Allot of cheaters playing through steam are doing it on hijacked accounts or new accounts with bogus game purchases so as with most things the person who cheated isn't actually out anything even if they do get caught and banned. The idea that people take their video games so seriously that they are willing to cheat to win is what we really need to be worried about.
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This horse crap if some cheats at say TF2 you don't lock account what they paid for your temp and under certain circumstances perma ban them from multiplayer.
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Seems like there are allot of people commenting without actually reading the posts before them. I had my account disabled about 9 months ago due to someone hijacking it and purchasing games on it with stolen credit cards. I was on a gaming break and didn't even know it was disabled until I fired up steam and tried to log in. It took a bit of time going back and forth with customer service, showing proof of purchase for my games etc. but I got my account back (minus the games the hijacker purchased). I don't see how this new system is any different from what I did way back then. I doubt it is anywhere near illegal to lock someone completely out of an account. When you purchase games, like movies and music, you are only purchasing the right to play it and whatever the media it is stored on; you don't actually own the game, music or movie.
As far as I am concerned, in game cheaters should lose the game they cheated on but there needs to be a way to prove who is doing the cheating. Allot of cheaters playing through steam are doing it on hijacked accounts or new accounts with bogus game purchases so as with most things the person who cheated isn't actually out anything even if they do get caught and banned. The idea that people take their video games so seriously that they are willing to cheat to win is what we really need to be worried about.

What's different is if you don't have proof of purchase, you can at least play the games you've bought still. They only take keys off a physical box as proof, some people bought all their games online so would be unable to get the account back.
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This horse crap if some cheats at say TF2 you don't lock account what they paid for your temp and under certain circumstances perma ban them from multiplayer.
Nah it's perfectly fine to ban the whole account from online games. Cheat once lose the ability to play online using your Steam account.
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What's different is if you don't have proof of purchase, you can at least play the games you've bought still. They only take keys off a physical box as proof, some people bought all their games online so would be unable to get the account back.

Would not a receipt of purchase be proof enough?
If you save a copy of all your online receipts I'd hope that would work, seeing as how it is linked to credit card/bank accounts.
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What's different is if you don't have proof of purchase, you can at least play the games you've bought still. They only take keys off a physical box as proof, some people bought all their games online so would be unable to get the account back.

Actually paypal transactions through the steam store work fine as well. Just grab the transaction ID.

It's fairly hard to get your account hi-jacked these days though with the new Steam Guard.
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Would not a receipt of purchase be proof enough?
If you save a copy of all your online receipts I'd hope that would work, seeing as how it is linked to credit card/bank accounts.

Not to mention that pretty much all online receipts these days are sent to your email address which makes them easy to get to (unless you're unfortunate enough to use a prehistoric email provider that doesn't allow you to search, or you delete all your receipts) and includes all the relevant information.
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