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Originally Posted by JanqeD View Post

For the record my budget is $1,000 though I dont want overkill I need a build to max diablo 3/sc2/wow in a small case. Nothing more nothing less lol. Just because it can be afforded doesnt mean it should be selected. Only select whats nessecary. Sorry if Im being picky. As for the SDD talk, I am in Logistics for the military Im aware of how things are handled. I can assure you the hard drive will be removed when shipping and it will have 100% insurance on it to cover any damages. Sorry again tongue.gif

I still think you should go with a laptop. especially since you are in logistics so you KNOW how things get bumped around biggrin.gif IF you go with your mATX proposal, you'd have to uninstall the vid card, HDD, and cpu cooler and pack them individually when you ship that box and hope they survive... with a laptop, you'd have a MUCH better chance of it arriving alive. generally speaking, if your box cant survive a 3 foot drop, it ain't gonna arrive alive biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by minnus View Post

I think that this project / thread will be much more successful if a real budget was in place. The responses one should expect from build suggests are ones that maximizes performance given the allotted budget.
Right now, the discussion is focused on how cheap you can build a computer that can run the games you specified on max (it seems that the future proof requirement has all been dropped, and in reality, not a very sustainable concept on a budget build), which is exactly what you said in one of your followup responses. My concern about this approach is that if you aim for 'just right', you run the risk of being short (for example, someone may recommend a 'just right build' that works well in their experience, but your definition of well may be 60FPS while the ones providing the recommendation's definition is 30FPS). A build may run awesome on 720p, but not so much when upgrading to 1080p. Games may receive content/expansion or graphics updates (like Skyrim's official HD patch) which will increase the demand of system resources.
Just remember that we don't take any responsibility for suggesting an inadequate build ~ you're the one who has to pay and live with the system.
If you build the best computer you can willing afford, you will not have any regrets if you run into the issues I stated above, or when you want to play a more graphically intensive game.
Meanwhile, you should define your needs more specifically, such as desired size limit (there can be huge differences between MicroATX, Mini-ITX, and standard ATX - I built a MicroATX and was quite shocked at how big the case was in person. I am building a MiniITX atm), weight, desired FPS in said games or the resolution you intend on using primarily.
Another disclaimer is that from my observations, not everyone defines 'max' the same. Max is every setting on the highest quality possible, but some deviate by having most on highest - but as a quick example, turn off shadows.

What I mean by future proof I dont want a motherboard with 1 PCI E make it upgradeable. Not that its going to be good for a long time. Im very well aware of all the information you stated though my budget isnt saying use all the money the goal is build a computer that can run it at max nothing more nothing less, your just thinking to stard about it. Of course there are alot that comes into play with computer games I just ask you do your best not like I dont look into the parts performance and make sure im comfortable with the statistics suggested and the 1,000 i have to spend on the build not that I want to spend that much but if i had to i would (I know i dont have to). Lol, Ill build my own computer thanks all for your comments didn't think the request would be so confusing and people understood that just because you have money to spend doesnt mean you should spend it all. I build the system in my signature Im very well capable of building a system myself I just wanted others inputs because I havent built a system for about a year. Thanks for those who helped your advice is taken into consideration!
Edited by JanqeD - 4/25/12 at 11:22am
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What I mean by future proof I dont want a motherboard with 1 PCI E make it upgradeable. Not that its going to be good for a long time. Im very well aware of all the information you stated though my budget isnt saying use all the money the goal is build a computer that can run it at max nothing more nothing less, your just thinking to stard about it. Of course there are alot that comes into play with computer games I just ask you do your best not like I dont look into the parts performance and make sure im comfortable with the statistics suggested and the 1,000 i have to spend on the build not that I want to spend that much but if i had to i would (I know i dont have to). Lol, Ill build my own computer thanks all for your comments didn't think the request would be so confusing and people understood that just because you have money to spend doesnt mean you should spend it all. I build the system in my signature Im very well capable of building a system myself I just wanted others inputs because I havent built a system for about a year. Thanks for those who helped your advice is taken into consideration!

This will likely be my last comment, since you basically ignore any inquires for specificity.

The comment about the PCIe slot is VERY important relative to a build, as well as your definition of "future proof." Wanting more than one PCIe slot automatically eliminates Mini-ITX boards, and you would be looking in the Micro-ATX realm. Information like this is important to receive meaningful feedback.

Anyways, good luck.
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Part list permalink
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.95 @ B&H)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar
Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($337.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: OCZ 700W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($57.60 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $1039.92
Mail-in Rebates: $-40.00
Total: $999.92

pls feel free to comment or make any change wink.gif
Hope you like it smile.gif
*EDIT*
i know you have a 1000$ but this may interest you
if you are going to bring the Monitor and the keyboard mouse soon Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Part list permalink
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.95 @ B&H)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($78.95 @ Adorama)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: OCZ 700W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($57.60 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer ABYSSUS Wired Optical Mouse ($38.76 @ Mac Connection)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $1240.06
Mail-in Rebates: $-40.00
Total: $1200.06
and if you feel its a little more remove the SSD and you would be around 1100$

He asked for a SFF and you get an ATX board? smh
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He asked for a SFF and you get an ATX board? smh

I thought it was funny too but he took his time to find stuff so im thankful
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This will likely be my last comment, since you basically ignore any inquires for specificity.
The comment about the PCIe slot is VERY important relative to a build, as well as your definition of "future proof." Wanting more than one PCIe slot automatically eliminates Mini-ITX boards, and you would be looking in the Micro-ATX realm. Information like this is important to receive meaningful feedback.
Anyways, good luck.

also needing more then 1 pcie slot basically narrows down your choice of mobo down to just the Gene-Z because it's the only board with the proper configuration for SLi/xfire in the mATX form factor. and since Gene-Z appears to be WAY out of your budget range,(what you are willing to spend, not what you can actually afford within the given budget) that discussion is fairly moot biggrin.gif

the machine you are looking to build is not one I would recommend for someone who is deployed. laptop is far more sensible. if you insist on building a machine as large as mATX, i'd recommend you revisit your trend of thought on what IS "upgradeable" and spend accordingly. buying old tech just so you can "upgrade" to current tech later down the road makes no sense..... wait a week and buy a low end ivybridge instead of a sandybridge you have to throw in the trash can later for the sake of "upgrading" it...
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Don't know this has been posted yet, 8 am work and running out lunch break

All three titles mentioned in opening post are DX9 games but are heavily dependent
On CPU speed, my FPS in SC2 drops from an avg of 100 to 40 if I turn off my 4ghz
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also needing more then 1 pcie slot basically narrows down your choice of mobo down to just the Gene-Z because it's the only board with the proper configuration for SLi/xfire in the mATX form factor. and since Gene-Z appears to be WAY out of your budget range,(what you are willing to spend, not what you can actually afford within the given budget) that discussion is fairly moot biggrin.gif
the machine you are looking to build is not one I would recommend for someone who is deployed. laptop is far more sensible. if you insist on building a machine as large as mATX, i'd recommend you revisit your trend of thought on what IS "upgradeable" and spend accordingly. buying old tech just so you can "upgrade" to current tech later down the road makes no sense..... wait a week and buy a low end ivybridge instead of a sandybridge you have to throw in the trash can later for the sake of "upgrading" it...

Its buying old tech because I dont need new tech YET not only for the purpose to upgrade lol after all blizzard wont release a more demanding game for a loong time after D3 anyhow. Alright can someone close this thread lol ive heard enough
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Don't know this has been posted yet, 8 am work and running out lunch break
All three titles mentioned in opening post are DX9 games but are heavily dependent
On CPU speed, my FPS in SC2 drops from an avg of 100 to 40 if I turn off my 4ghz
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Thank you for the comment very informative thanks for your time as well
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Originally Posted by Tarun View Post

[url= ]Part list permalink[/url]
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.95 @ B&H)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar
Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($337.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: OCZ 700W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($57.60 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $1039.92
Mail-in Rebates: $-40.00
Total: $999.92

pls feel free to comment or make any change wink.gif
Hope you like it smile.gif
*EDIT*
i know you have a 1000$ but this may interest you
if you are going to bring the Monitor and the keyboard mouse soon Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Part list permalink
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.95 @ B&H)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($78.95 @ Adorama)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: OCZ 700W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($57.60 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer ABYSSUS Wired Optical Mouse ($38.76 @ Mac Connection)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $1240.06
Mail-in Rebates: $-40.00
Total: $1200.06
and if you feel its a little more remove the SSD and you would be around 1100$

He asked for a SFF and you get an ATX board? smh

i actually had built a SFF build but i guess i may have posted it in the wrong thread any ways i will try to build another "SFF" build for you wink.gif
and i think i have it here which is more then enough in all senses i think
Part list permalink

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard: ASRock Z68M-ITX/HT Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.79 @ NCIX US)

Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)

Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($247.55 @ Newegg)

Case: Lian-Li PC-Q11A Mini ITX Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Antec 650W ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)

Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($119.00 @ B&H)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $969.29
Mail-in Rebates: $-10.00
Total: $959.29
the only thing is you cant CF in the future and you cant overclock it much redface.gif if a mATX may do for you then i would make another config if you want its pretty fun for me smile.gif
Hope you like it smile.gif

*EDIT*

Ok i could not hold myself here is a mATX rig a little over the budget but i guess it wont mind wink.gif
Part list permalink
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($189.98 @ Mac Connection)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($247.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Vulcan Black MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 650W ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($119.00 @ B&H)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $1024.47
Mail-in Rebates: $-10.00
Total: $1014.47

pls reply what you think about it wink.gif
Edited by Tarun - 4/25/12 at 1:01pm
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i actually had built a SFF build but i guess i may have posted it in the wrong thread any ways i will try to build another "SFF" build for you wink.gif
and i think i have it here which is more then enough in all senses i think
Part list permalink
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68M-ITX/HT Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.79 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($247.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Lian-Li PC-Q11A Mini ITX Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec 650W ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($119.00 @ B&H)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $969.29
Mail-in Rebates: $-10.00
Total: $959.29
the only thing is you cant CF in the future and you cant overclock it much redface.gif if a mATX may do for you then i would make another config if you want its pretty fun for me smile.gif
Hope you like it smile.gif
*EDIT*
Ok i could not hold myself here is a mATX rig a little over the budget but i guess it wont mind wink.gif
Part list permalink
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($189.98 @ Mac Connection)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($247.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Vulcan Black MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 650W ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($119.00 @ B&H)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $1024.47
Mail-in Rebates: $-10.00
Total: $1014.47
pls reply what you think about it wink.gif

I love them both but the only change is the case and mobo?
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