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Originally Posted by NotAgain View Post

As far as I can tell, all the Savu drivers do is write settings either to the mouse (Button config, Macros, CPI/Polling rate etc.) or to the OS. (Windows pointer speed etc.) None of the Macro functions are actually performed by the Savu drivers.
Which is fantastic, and exactly how things should be done on all mice. It's easily the best thing about the mouse for me, after having other mice which either don't write anything, only write the currently selected profile to the mouse (Savu saves all five profiles and all settings to the mouse-though you will need a button assigned to switch between them) or even just very basic settings like the current CPI and nothing else.

Thanks NotAgain. This sounds like it functions exactly like I was hoping it would. Everything's on the mouse and the drivers are only really needed if you want to tweak the setup. I'm actually pleasantly suprised that all the profiles are saved as well. This seems like this would give me all the configuration options that Id ever need. Really looking forward to getting my hands on it now.
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Flawless mouse? First I ever tested !!!

- Sensor + Hardware = OK
- LOD is average 2.3 mm on different pad, is not intellimouse LOD but is good enough = OK
- Great Side buttons quality , nice feeling with glossy finish (OMRON switches+astonishing build quality) = OK
- Scroll Wheel is amazing, nice feeling and build quality = OK
- No prediction, No acceleration = OK
- On board memory = OK

The only thing you can fight with is the shape, maybe tiny with his 12 cm, but you can get used to.
If you don't have money problem this is a top notch mouse.
If you prefer to save money G400 all the way. The money you spend to upgrade to Savu give you a better mouse wheel without ghost scrolling.
Just my 2 eurocent

P.S. I don't work for Roccat XD and I hated Roccat Kone+ with his poor quality wheel.
Edited by Summerrr - 9/21/12 at 4:06pm
post #343 of 705
Glad to hear you're liking the mouse. I'm back on Windows now and have been doing a little more testing. With the speed side of my Razer Pro|Pad, lift-off distance is just above 1mm. It tracks at 1mm, but cuts off well before 2mm.
On the control side it tracks at 1mm, picks up some movement at 2mm, and nothing just above 2mm.

And it should seem obvious, but after doing this testing, I left the pad on the control side to see how it tracked compared to the speed side, which I hadn't done before.

Well, it tracks almost perfectly on it. I have only been able to make it malfunction once at high speed with 400 CPI after maybe 25-30 tries moving the mouse as fast as I physically could. (it's possible that it actually just lifted off slightly and tracked at an angle) No jitter at low speeds, or at 1600 CPI - though now I'm in Windows, I am down to 800 CPI. For some reason OS X needs twice the CPI of Windows to feel the same.

I would still prefer a pad that has a smoother surface (something darker or with more of a pattern should work) but now my concerns about the sensor implementation have been put to rest. It's entirely down to the surface you're using the mouse on. Pair it with a good surface and it's easily the best mouse I've used.

Comfort may be subjective, but I don't think there's anything else out there which could track smoother than the Savu as it's definitely better than the DeathAdder Black Edition. At best, another mouse could only match it.
Combine that with just about every setting being saved to the mouse for all five profiles, instant profile/CPI changing (doesn't skip/pause when switching) and the solid construction/good design choices, I don't think it can be beaten.

The only issues are whether or not the mouse fits your hand well (and after using it for a while, I'm happy with the fit now - I rest my thumb on the side buttons rather than in the indent) whether you need more than 4000 CPI (I can't even imagine using more than 1600 CPI for anything that requires accuracy) and whether you can put up with the potential of a squeaky wheel - which is a result of the precise detents and solid action, rather than poor build quality. Any wheel designed for gaming rather than scrolling freely will do that eventually.
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What a bummer, it has fixed CPI steps !

For such a sophisticated and pretentious mouse that's really unacceptable, I even has an achievement system !, but no cpi steps.
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post #345 of 705
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Originally Posted by ZareliMan View Post

What a bummer, it has fixed CPI steps !
For such a sophisticated and pretentious mouse that's really unacceptable, I even has an achievement system !, but no cpi steps.
I don't believe the ADNS-3090 supports adjustable CPI steps, and most mice that do, are running a higher fixed-step and interpolating down. (so 1200 CPI might be running at 1600 CPI on the mouse, and interpolated down to 1200 CPI)

There is a ±5 sensitivity option (not Windows pointer speed) which should be able to accomplish the same thing. 1600 -3 is the same as 800 CPI for example. 1600 -4 is probably closer to 600 CPI.
Edited by NotAgain - 9/22/12 at 9:40am
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I don't believe the ADNS-3090 supports adjustable CPI steps, and most mice that do, are running a higher fixed-step and interpolating down. (so 1200 CPI might be running at 1600 CPI on the mouse, and interpolated down to 1200 CPI)
There is a ±5 sensitivity option (not Windows pointer speed) which should be able to accomplish the same thing. 1600 -3 is the same as 800 CPI for example. 1600 -4 is probably closer to 600 CPI.

As Skylit said, each sensitivity step increases/decreases 1/6 of the current DPI, so yes -3 is half, -4 is like one third. I've tried scaling down and it didn't cause any jitter or unbalanced movement (unlike windows pointer speed setting). Even 4000DPI scaled down to 2000DPI is pretty stable. With this, more DPI can be simulated, though it is not as straightforward as a CPI step adjustment.
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I've used the specific model of scroll wheel in 5-6 mice and haven't had a squeaky one yet ;o


I actually don't mind the stiffness. It eventually wears down over time.
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its either lose, or squeaky or stiff to press -.-

Most brands go for the lose "solution".
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I call it the Xavu: Xai + Savu. M1/2/3, wheel up/down. Weight: 79 gramm (73-74gramm without glued sides). Actually wanted to use the xai button10 as mouse4 for dpi cycle, but i got impatient at the end. biggrin.gif. wheee.gif
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Lol you also have a AM in there.

nice mod
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