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post #61 of 705
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Originally Posted by resis View Post

I'd say shape is more like Razer Imperator, only smaller. Comparing to G400 it is smaller and shorter. It's kind of edgy and I feels like not as comfortable as AM, DA and G400.

Sounds good as I don't find any of the mice you listed as comfortable for me (everyone is different and my hands are quite special I think wink.gif).

Is it possible to claw grip it?

I'm usually using a mix of claw and palm on my Abyssus that I graciously call it "Paw", which involves palming the butt and clawing the end of the buttons (literally my fingertips sit on the edge of the buttons, kinda "clawing" there), but it's not a very comfortable mouse to hold tight - it's impossible for me to hold the G400 as tight, it makes my hand go loose since it's bigger.
So anything that involves palming the butt of the mouse (that sounds so pervert lol) and then using fingers to grip the sides is good in my book.
post #62 of 705
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Originally Posted by resis View Post

Yeah, tapefix "fixed" liftoff just like with AM and Diamondback, that's good.
You tape-fix the Zowie AM? That mouse has a LOD of < 1 mm, why would you do that?
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Originally Posted by resis View Post

Worst thing about it is the sandpaper sides. Yes, it feels 100% like working sandpaper.
One of the best things about the mouse is the "sandpaper" sides. First of all it's similar to a very fine sandpaper, it won't hurt your fingers or anything like that. Instead it gives a perfect grip, better than a rubberized paint (Xai, Sensei, EC evo). I guess you can't please everyone ...
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

How's the shape compared to a G400/DA/Abyssus?
I really don't like the G400 set of sizes, although the shape would be good if some things were placed a bit different - also the lip kills me, so I might avoid this mouse if it's too similar to G400.
Tomorrow I might walk _again_ to the physical stores in the city, and check if any has recieved it.
It's not similar to any of those. The best comparison i can think of is the Microsoft Sidewinder X3. Both mice have a thumb rest, but it is on the back of the mouse and i can claw-grip both without problems. The right side of Savu is like any ambidextrous mice (no pinky rest, no nothing). Also the Savu is a little smaller than AM, Sensei, X3 and that definitely helps with finger-claw grips. Just so you can understand what i prefer ... i hate the MX518/G400 shape. The left side is way to ergonomic for a claw grip. The thumb rest is way too pronounced for a fingertip grip. The Zowie AM has that slippery \ / shape, but Savu is atleast | | if not a little / \ In conclusion i think of Savu as an ambidextrous mouse, it's ergonomic features won't bother anyone imo. If you have the opportunity try the Sidewinder X3. If you don't have a problem with that kind of shape you will be fine with Savu.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7JOVZ4xiQWY/T8xz1712CiI/AAAAAAAABIY/J3A8BCyTJLM/s640/roccat-savu-DSC_3469.jpg

That's exactly how i hold this little monster smile.gif
post #63 of 705
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Originally Posted by kaingosu View Post

One of the best things about the mouse is the "sandpaper" sides. First of all it's similar to a very fine sandpaper, it won't hurt your fingers or anything like that. Instead it gives a perfect grip, better than a rubberized paint (Xai, Sensei, EC evo). I guess you can't please everyone ...

Interesting, although I never had any problem lifting the glossy sides of a DA or Abyssus.
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Originally Posted by kaingosu View Post

It's not similar to any of those. The best comparison i can think of is the Microsoft Sidewinder X3. Both mice have a thumb rest, but it is on the back of the mouse and i can claw-grip both without problems. The right side of Savu is like any ambidextrous mice (no pinky rest, no nothing). Also the Savu is a little smaller than AM, Sensei, X3 and that definitely helps with finger-claw grips. Just so you can understand what i prefer ... i hate the MX518/G400 shape. The left side is way to ergonomic for a claw grip. The thumb rest is way too pronounced for a fingertip grip. The Zowie AM has that slippery \ / shape, but Savu is atleast | | if not a little / \ In conclusion i think of Savu as an ambidextrous mouse, it's ergonomic features won't bother anyone imo. If you have the opportunity try the Sidewinder X3. If you don't have a problem with that kind of shape you will be fine with Savu.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7JOVZ4xiQWY/T8xz1712CiI/AAAAAAAABIY/J3A8BCyTJLM/s640/roccat-savu-DSC_3469.jpg
That's exactly how i hold this little monster smile.gif

Looking good then, looks like an Abyssus with actual useable sides, "normal" buttons, better skates, some more weight, 3090 sensor and better overall shape (or at least far more useable).

Since it looks like it won't get to a local retailer anytime soon, I might aswell order it online asap :/

Thanks for your help smile.gif
post #64 of 705
Very solid A3090 performances (3m/s to 4m/s mal. speed) - tape fixed, 400cpi, 1Khz
Predction (?) is somewhere between low to midrate, not as IME3.0 but not 'high' as EC1 in my experience
The very rough/grainy sides works very well for me altrough they gives the mouse very subjective feeling in term of grip.
Weight is low
Teflons are smooth, low friction
Cable is quite the same as deathadder 1800 but not as braid/strong
Feels ok in general, not expensive but not cheap feeling.
Clicks require medium force for click and have 'normal' reachment
Sensor is dead center but its turned as CM Spawns for some reason
wheel pressing its ok, not hard but not too easy, also scrolling is fine but theres medium amount of friction - very balanced overall.
Tracking quality is typical for Avago sensor with avago lens and good enough MCU and loaded SROM/s - very solid but not as the olds intellis IMHO thumb.gif

Will try to upload here focused pictures of the sides in Tuesday, phone's screen broke. mad.gifmad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
Edited by avinin1 - 6/20/12 at 4:29pm
post #65 of 705
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Originally Posted by avinin1 View Post

Sensor is dead center but its turned as CM Spawns for some reason

Here's the reason :
450

Source

Notice how near the mouse wheel and the rear LED strip are?

It's impossible to fit the lens if it's put straight, so they must put it sideways.

Good info thumb.gif

I might recieve mine tomorrow or past that, I'll keep you posted too smile.gif
post #66 of 705
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

Here's the reason :
450
Source
Notice how near the mouse wheel and the rear LED strip are?
It's impossible to fit the lens if it's put straight, so they must put it sideways.
Good info thumb.gif
I might recieve mine tomorrow or past that, I'll keep you posted too smile.gif
Thanks you for posted the picture and explain, got it

This shape is unique in the good way, I like the fact that I can easily have a good grip over it, just like I did with the Spawns.
LoD is just as Deathadder on my QcK when without tape fixing it.

1Khz is very stable.

This is my first Roccat products I got, and I think its my new favorite so far.

Too bad this mouse dont have cpi buttons for on the fly use but its fine since 1.6 gonna die anyway and I'll be out of gaming as it seems to be. mad.gif
post #67 of 705
Would have been possible to fit straight if the EE design was a bit different, but there's allocation for other features.
post #68 of 705
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Originally Posted by avinin1 View Post

Thanks you for posted the picture and explain, got it
This shape is unique in the good way, I like the fact that I can easily have a good grip over it, just like I did with the Spawns.
LoD is just as Deathadder on my QcK when without tape fixing it.
1Khz is very stable.
This is my first Roccat products I got, and I think its my new favorite so far.
Too bad this mouse dont have cpi buttons for on the fly use but its fine since 1.6 gonna die anyway and I'll be out of gaming as it seems to be. mad.gif

At what CPI step does it default when "new"?

You can see the reviewer might have been unlucky on the top right corner, as the PCB seems to be missing a bit rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Would have been possible to fit straight if the EE design was a bit different, but there's allocation for other features.

No doubt they could've put it straight, but it would be lower from the center of the mouse, thus we would get a slightly more "butt-positioned" sensor.
If they made the shell in one or two pieces, they might have been able to fit it vertically, making the backlit LED be connected with a flexible cable.

Then again, it's implementation, putting the sensor sideways should not affect the performance at all smile.gif
post #69 of 705
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

At what CPI step does it default when "new"?
As far as i remember it was @800DPI. The funny thing is there was no DPI toggle button. I had to assign one from the software to change the DPI. Maybe it was a combination with that EASY-SHIFT[+], but i couldn't find it.
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

Then again, it's implementation, putting the sensor sideways should not affect the performance at all smile.gif
I only used 2 mice with this implementation (Xornet and Savu), but as far as i can tell there's no difference. Not even that weird feeling when a sensor is not centered.
post #70 of 705
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Originally Posted by kaingosu View Post

As far as i remember it was @800DPI. The funny thing is there was no DPI toggle button. I had to assign one from the software to change the DPI. Maybe it was a combination with that EASY-SHIFT[+], but i couldn't find it.

Funny thing that you are required to install software to do something as simple as change DPI (they should work on that over at Roccat for sure).

I did read after posting the question on a review that it starts at 400DPI. I'll say when it comes here.

Is there any downside at having drivers installed? Nothing weird as Logitech drivers used to be or different "feeling" of the mouse as Razer drivers used to provide? Do the changes you make to the mouse config stick?

There's no real need to answer _all_ of that since I might have the mouse in a few hours, but I guess people who might wanna buy it will find the answers useful smile.gif
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Originally Posted by kaingosu View Post

I only used 2 mice with this implementation (Xornet and Savu), but as far as i can tell there's no difference. Not even that weird feeling when a sensor is not centered.

In theory it's only to swap two small parts of code when it comes to the MCU and you're gold.

As in (simplified and in a C++ - esque object oriented way) :
fetch_X_axis_movement(Y_axis_buffer);
fetch_Y_axis_movement(X_axis_buffer);
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