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post #81 of 705
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Originally Posted by resis View Post

I tested the mouse for some days now. It's a good mouse, good for "paw" grip, but to me AM is in any way better.
Shape of the AM just flows into the hand, while Savu feels artificial.
The sandpaper sides of the Savu aren't really that great for grip, they are good for a tighter grip, but if you have the fingers relaxed, no grip. Strangeley the AM with rubber sides has for me a really good grip, also with relaxed fingers and feels good, unlike the Savu sandpaper.
I can fully palm the AM and it feels really good. The Savu has the middle finger longer than the right button and I can't stand this.
The soft rubber cable of AM is better, feels almost like wireless.
If only the AM had the buttons and wheel as good and as silent as Savu.
The right side of the Savu is actually better fot the thumb. Answer is Roccat Lua, it has both sides like Savu's right side, but it has no sidebuttons, so it's not an option for me.

Heh, I guess soon people will copy my "paw grip" style xD

Shape in a mouse must be the most subjective thing there is, everyone's hand is different and has a different way of getting used on different shapes.

To me Savu feels more comfortable (yes, mine arrived today, in less than 24h after the order, thumbs up for my e-tailer), buttons are softer than AM (and a bit stronger than any Razer for that matter), mousewheel is epic (and quite a lot better than that on the AM) and I'm digging the sandpaper sides more and more.

The area for the thumb is great, but shares the same "problem" as the G400 : it's good if you place the thumb where the mouse asks you to but it might not be too comfortable if you don't. Foam with memory would fix that but would also be the host of plenty of other problems I presume.

Right side of the mouse is ok, I tried putting ringfinger on top of the plastic "fake key" and it feels better than curling it up on the side like you're forced to do with the AM or Abyssus.

There are positives all over the mouse and some things are love or hate (still getting used to easyshift, but looks good), but at the moment I'm liking it.

Besides, I just won a cup with that mouse tongue.gif
post #82 of 705
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Originally Posted by resis View Post

If only the AM had the buttons and wheel as good and as silent as Savu.
The right side of the Savu is actually better fot the thumb. Answer is Roccat Lua, it has both sides like Savu's right side, but it has no sidebuttons, so it's not an option for me.

I want to correct one statement: The Lua and the Savu do NOT have the same sides.

Lua has a texture, Savu has a coating instead.
Both have pros and cons, however dont expect the Lua to have the exactly same sides as Savu.
Savu is more dry and has more sandpaper feel. However this gets more smooth over time when under heavy usage.
Lua is more smooth but doesnt change over time.

However the Lua does also have Omron switches and same mechanical rotary encoder for the wheel as Savu.

Further, the Lua is much smaller than Savu! It is more a fingertip mouse than palm or palm/claw. As always i recommend to try out before buying.
post #83 of 705
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Would have been possible to fit straight if the EE design was a bit different, but there's allocation for other features.

If the light would have been kicked out or more compromises made this might have been possible. However as DeMS pointed out, no problem for the 32-bit ARM Cortex M3 MCU smile.gif
post #84 of 705
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

In every review I've seen they say it's about 3mm.
Which is good if you like a bit of LOD and it's fixable if you like as little LOD as possible (tapefix can help without damaging tracking quality).

On cloth very similar to DA, on hard plastic (i.e. PP) slightly better than DA. (EE deisgn is different from Da for the IR LED.)
post #85 of 705
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Originally Posted by Skar View Post

On cloth very similar to DA, on hard plastic (i.e. PP) slightly better than DA. (EE deisgn is different from Da for the IR LED.)

I have the mouse here and just did the test.

It stops tracking at the third CD/DVD - which means it's between 2.4 and 3.6mm.

On a sidenote, it uses infrared light to work, which is something that really surprised me (when I noticed there was no more light coming from under the mouse than the LED from behind).
post #86 of 705
I don't like that CPI changing method, simply prefer a dedicated CPI button allthough I don't use it much anyway.
Btw, can you only assign "CPI cycle" or also switching between 2 specific values?

@skar

tripple post ftw biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post


As in (simplified and in a C++ - esque object oriented way) :
fetch_X_axis_movement(Y_axis_buffer);
fetch_Y_axis_movement(X_axis_buffer);

Allthough the basic statement is correct in the case of the Savu that would invert the y-axis. wink.gif
post #87 of 705
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

Besides, I just won a cup with that mouse tongue.gif
Told you the mouse is imba biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Bullveyr View Post

I don't like that CPI changing method, simply prefer a dedicated CPI button allthough I don't use it much anyway.
Btw, can you only assign "CPI cycle" or also switching between 2 specific values?
I use the cycle option, but you can choose between how many CPI steps to cycle. You can eliminate the ones you don't want and then it pretty much works like EC/AM.
post #88 of 705
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Originally Posted by Bullveyr View Post

I don't like that CPI changing method, simply prefer a dedicated CPI button allthough I don't use it much anyway.
Btw, can you only assign "CPI cycle" or also switching between 2 specific values?
@skar
tripple post ftw biggrin.gif
Allthough the basic statement is correct in the case of the Savu that would invert the y-axis. wink.gif

It is the typical ROCCAT "DPI switcher" function.

You can control which of the 4 dpi values are part of the cycle by de/selecting the checkbox.

So 1, 2, 3 or 4 values can be selected. Obviously, selecting only one value does not enable any switching.

For button assignment you can chose between 3 options: dpi up, dpi down and dpi cycle.

Best for switching between 2 values is "dpi cycle". "dpi up" will not jump from highest value to lowest and "dpi down" behaves similar on the other end of the scale.

...well, never got used to this "multiquote" function smile.gif.
post #89 of 705
Regarding the missing dpi button, rumor has it that some ppl claimed they would hit it accidently... no comment. (i didnt manage that accomplishment with any mouse ever)
post #90 of 705
Yea, never figured out how people manage to do that. tongue.gif
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