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After Noctua's three rad heatsink from last year, I'm thinking these high end companies are competing to come out with the most ridiculous heatsinks possible. Next we'll see one from Thermalright...or does the Silver Arrow SB-E count?
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Originally Posted by DaXxJaPxX View Post

im sorry what? show me a air cooler that is on par with a h100 ,at load overclocked. thats just wrong

The Phanteks TC14PE, Thermalright Silver Arrow, Noctua NH-D14, and Zalman CNPS12X all perform pretty close to the H100 in those conditions while being quieter. In fact, looking at Guru3D and the link you provided, the CNPS12X and Noctua NH-D14 both perform better than the H100 overclocked and under load for an extended period of time*. And with the money you save, you can grab some Indigo Xtreme/MainGear Epic T1000 and make it run cooler and quieter.

*Yes, I do realize that there's no Delta measurement, so they're not perfectly comparable.
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Originally Posted by Abs.exe View Post

NH-D14 is on par with H100 on medium with push
On high with push pull H100 wins.

If you're dropping the money to get additional fans to put the H100 in push pull, you should be grabbing an XSPC Rasa kit.
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Looks like there is a lot of stress on the heatpipes where the meat the base. Mounting is probably a pain, and the whole thing looks pretty fragile.
Disagree.
Self contained WC setups still cost just as much if not more than high end air, aren't any quieter, don't cool the CPU any better, and don't cool surrounding components at all.
A good portion do, but far from the majority.

No, I Disagree.

Enter the Antec Kuhler 620 / 920. A 620 at stock beats the H70 and beats or keeps par with the best air coolers out there. Can be had for $39.00 - $49.99.

Self contained WC setups are indeed the future. They can be had for as much or less than say a high end air cooler, they are in fact very quite opposed to using multiple high speed fans on a tower heat sink and cools better with just one fan. Unless you are talking about the intel stock cooler, I dont see how a tower heatsink cools the surrounding components since the fan is a good 1 - 1.5 inches above the motherboard. they are the future and do look a lot nicer and liter than a 1kg heatsink hanging on your motherboard.

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Originally Posted by Just a nickname View Post

Self containing "water-cooled" system are craps.
Guys, going water cool is 200-300$ just for a CPU loop with all the prime price we are paying for the block and pump which constitute 50+% of the budget!
These dirt cheap "water-cool kit" go for merely 100$.
Why aren't they the "future"?
Because in the future chip will consume less. If you really wanted something better than air, you wouldn't go for these kits. The radiator is too small, fans need to push a lot of air hence the high noise to compensate the ridiculously small radiator. The coolant isn't pure water, performance is greatly harmed. Pump is mediocre. Heck, how would you expect it to be good when you need to spend at least 200$ for a minimal of quality in a custom loop?
/back in topic
This heat-sink is ridiculous. You lose a lot of dissipation surface with all these holes for the fans and I doubt it will ever be sold.

They aren't crap, how many have you tried,? only the H20 crap crosair sells or did you even try a Kuhler? they can be had for around $50 and offer overall better performance than high end air and quite too. Perfect for most users and average overclockers. My friends i7 ran 4.2 with 1.42v @ 40's idle and stays under 70C at load,

See my earlier analogy above...We dont need to spend the $300 on a single loop to get the results we want. to take nonsense to the kuhler club. And did I mention they offer 3 years warranty?

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Originally Posted by WorldExclusive View Post

Why?
They need to make self contained WC units.
I'll chose that over increasingly larger heatsinks any day.


^^ Exactly, Costs less, Does the job equally well or better than any large heatsink, and is quieter and liter. smile.gif
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Wonder how effective this is.
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NH-D14 is on par with H100 on medium with push
On high with push pull H100 wins.

THe Corsair / Coolit units are pathetic. Try the Antec units instead. At stock the Antec 620 beats the Crosair H70 and most air coolers. Ad a second fan and you are in a whole different zone. The single rad 920 Beats the H100/NH-D14 at stock.
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Where are you finding one for $40 or even $49 for that matter? They're generally found for $55-65 and can, occasionally, be found on sale for $50 and on even rarer occassion, a little less.

And the 620 does not beat the H70, nor is it beating or on par with the best air coolers out there. Take a look at HardOCP, LegitReviews, HardwareSecrets, Xbitlabs, Vortez, and HiTechLegion. The 620 isn't bad, I have one, but it doesn't stand up to higher end air cooling and there are air cooled sinks out there than will beat the stock config at the same price. CLCs/AIOs, whatever you want to call them do have potential and a future as the tech gets better, but you're not beating high end air cooling with the 620 or even the 920 or H80. It's not until you get to the H100 on the extreme fan profile that CLCs start to catch up.
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THe Corsair / Coolit units are pathetic. Try the Antec units instead. At stock the Antec 620 beats the Crosair H70 and most air coolers. Ad a second fan and you are in a whole different zone. The single rad 920 Beats the H100/NH-D14 at stock.

Quit pulling "facts" out of thin air. The H100 and the H80 both beat the Kuhler 920. HardwareHeaven, TomsHardware.
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Quit pulling "facts" out of thin air. The H100 and the H80 both beat the Kuhler 920. HardwareHeaven, TomsHardware.

Are you Kidding me? 2C! The Dual Rad H100 beats the Single Rad 920 at stock by just 2C at idle and 5C at load! Big Win that is.
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Where are you finding one for $40 or even $49 for that matter? They're generally found for $55-65 and can, occasionally, be found on sale for $50 and on even rarer occassion, a little less.
And the 620 does not beat the H70, nor is it beating or on par with the best air coolers out there. Take a look at HardOCP, LegitReviews, HardwareSecrets, Xbitlabs, Vortez, and HiTechLegion. The 620 isn't bad, I have one, but it doesn't stand up to higher end air cooling and there are air cooled sinks out there than will beat the stock config at the same price. CLCs/AIOs, whatever you want to call them do have potential and a future as the tech gets better, but you're not beating high end air cooling with the 620 or even the 920 or H80. It's not until you get to the H100 on the extreme fan profile that CLCs start to catch up..


^Visit the Antec Kuhler 620/920 Club, Almost everyone at there got theirs between the $35 - $50. They are usually on sale from micro center. if by high end air coolers you mean the NHD then the 620 should already beat it. at least with a second fan.
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And the 620 does not beat the H70, nor is it beating or on par with the best air coolers out there. Take a look at HardOCP, LegitReviews, HardwareSecrets, Xbitlabs, Vortez, and HiTechLegion. The 620 isn't bad, I have one, but it doesn't stand up to higher end air cooling and there are air cooled sinks out there than will beat the stock config at the same price.

^ You got a good point there, strange i never saw any of those reviews last year, almost every thing I read suggested the 620 > H70. blushsmiley.gif
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Looks like there is a lot of stress on the heatpipes where the meat the base. Mounting is probably a pain, and the whole thing looks pretty fragile.
Disagree.
Self contained WC setups still cost just as much if not more than high end air, aren't any quieter, don't cool the CPU any better, and don't cool surrounding components at all.

Biggest reason I went back to air. Temps for me are roughly the same on air anyways.
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Just wait till corsair upgrades the h100 with a normal thick rad, let alone fat rad. Well, i wish they would.
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First it was a race to cram as many heatpipes on the cooler. Now its a race to fit as many fin stacks on each heatpipe array.
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Are you Kidding me? 2C! The Dual Rad H100 beats the Single Rad 920 at stock by just 2C at idle and 5C at load! Big Win that is.

And the single rad H80 beats the single rad 920. I'm not a fan of the H100, but you're cherrypicking the benches.
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^Visit the Antec Kuhler 620/920 Club, Almost everyone at there got theirs between the $35 - $50. They are usually on sale from micro center. if by high end air coolers you mean the NHD then the 620 should already beat it. at least with a second fan.

I manged to get mine for $50 on Amazon and that was the cheapest I've ever seen it. And don't go saying the 620 should beat it. Bring in facts and evidence to back your claim. I've seen the Silver Arrow beat the H80 at Anandtech and the NH-D14 beat the H80 at OC3D and a glut of other sites, so I'm having a really hard time buying that the 620 is going to be beating the NH-D14 or Silver Arrow, even with a second fan. A second fan helps, but it's not going to make the 620 all of a sudden perform 5C better under load on an overclocked CPU.

Again, I'm not bashing CLCs, I think they have a place in builds, but I have seen no evidence at all to back your claims. In fact, everything I have seen is pointing to the contrary.
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