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post #1131 of 3306
6/11/12 at 3:11pm
Hey all.

Finally got my Ivy 3570k after running a E6600 @ 3.0 for nearly 6 years now! Got a GTX 680 to pair it with. I wanted the 3770k but they were out of stock, but figured it's not much of a difference for gaming.

Not interested in any extreme overclock, a free boost + energy efficient and reasonable temps is what I was after. I mean seriously, 4.5 vs 4.0 the difference is barely 10%.

After some experimentation I have settled on all 4 cores at 4.0 using offset mode -0.05v undervolt and no other settings (ie. LLC). Stable and good IBT temps for stock cooler (under 80). Also undervolted my 1.65v Kingston RAM to 1.5v without any problem (still running at XMP 1600).

Pretty happy. Shame about these chips and their thermal paste between the chip and the IHS, if that is true. Can't help but wonder what Intel were thinking there.

I know my RAM is stable, so what's the best Prime95 torture test setting for the CPU alone? Small FFTs? Blend? Or should I just stick to IBT?

Also I have a slot directly above (top of case) for another fan, would it be better for it to blow air on to the CPU and VRMs or suck it out?
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6/11/12 at 3:54pm
Who's out of stock? I bought another 3770K at Newegg today for my new build. Maybe I'll get lucky and this one won't be a volt monger. tongue.gif
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6/11/12 at 4:05pm
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Hey all.
Finally got my Ivy 3570k after running a E6600 @ 3.0 for nearly 6 years now! Got a GTX 680 to pair it with. I wanted the 3770k but they were out of stock, but figured it's not much of a difference for gaming.
Not interested in any extreme overclock, a free boost + energy efficient and reasonable temps is what I was after. I mean seriously, 4.5 vs 4.0 the difference is barely 10%.
After some experimentation I have settled on all 4 cores at 4.0 using offset mode -0.05v undervolt and no other settings (ie. LLC). Stable and good IBT temps for stock cooler (under 80). Also undervolted my 1.65v Kingston RAM to 1.5v without any problem (still running at XMP 1600).
Pretty happy. Shame about these chips and their thermal paste between the chip and the IHS, if that is true. Can't help but wonder what Intel were thinking there.
I know my RAM is stable, so what's the best Prime95 torture test setting for the CPU alone? Small FFTs? Blend? Or should I just stick to IBT?
Also I have a slot directly above (top of case) for another fan, would it be better for it to blow air on to the CPU and VRMs or suck it out?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2195063
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post #1134 of 3306
6/11/12 at 4:06pm
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I disagree, these chips are sold as K version that re overclockable, if they don't have adequate performance to overclock them then the customer has every right to want to exchange it.



and what is adequate performance? I want my 3570 to hit 5.0 on 1.2 volts 100% stable. is it fine for me to return dozens of processors to find the golden chip?

whatever you want to think to justify your shady behavior is fine with you.
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6/11/12 at 4:25pm
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and what is adequate performance? I want my 3570 to hit 5.0 on 1.2 volts 100% stable. is it fine for me to return dozens of processors to find the golden chip?
whatever you want to think to justify your shady behavior is fine with you.
I agree with you. Intel releases the K series just mean the multiplier is unlocked. That means you are allowed to change your multipler to 40, 45, 50, etc, but that doesn't mean they'll guarantee you can hit any of those OC. If you can hit a high OC, then that's good. If you can't, then stay at whatever modest OC (or stock) your CPU/rig is capable of. They (Intel) shouldn't be held liable unless the CPU isn't working.

P.S. There's a reason why Intel never releases any guideline for overclocking.
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6/12/12 at 3:17am
I would never RMA anything I screwed up. Come on guys, don't get all bent out of shape.
I once ordered a replacement motherboard, (at my expense) convinced I had borked it. Turns out I was able to fix it and sent the replacement back, minus my shipping costs. I'm basically an honest person, always have been.
On the other hand, if the Intel program is meant to cover overclocking one time only replacement, I would not feel bad about using it if I had paid the "insurance".
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Same here, chip aint a great overclocker? deal with it. It's luck of the draw.

My 3570K is from possibly one of the worst batches, before I de-lidded I considered selling it, but I wouldn't wish this chip on anyone tongue.gif
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6/12/12 at 5:59am
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no, don't do that.
some people do that, but some people also steal. doesn't make it right.
doing it is like the most dbag thing you could do in life.

Not coming from a robin hood rationale here but rather utilitarianism. The production cost (not the research cost covered by the initial purchase) of a chip must be fairly low ($25 insurance plan is proof of this), if it means sticking with the crap chip or RMAing it for another I doubt Intel would be at any considerable loss at all in comparison to the loss of 400mhz or so throughout the chips lifetime.
Edited by MaFi0s0 - 6/12/12 at 6:09am
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6/12/12 at 6:59am
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and what is adequate performance? I want my 3570 to hit 5.0 on 1.2 volts 100% stable. is it fine for me to return dozens of processors to find the golden chip?
whatever you want to think to justify your shady behavior is fine with you.

I RMA'd one because they told me to since it failed a test they told me to run that wasn't updated for ivy, but thanks anyway. I also broke the second one and I bought another one so i'm pretty sure they are making money off me.
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6/12/12 at 9:30am
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I finally got my chip to be stable at 4.8 on air! 97c max biggrin.gif I know this won't get posted "officially" but just wanted everyone to know it can be done.
bios was set at 1.340v with very high LLC. but board reads 1.352v
This has been an interesting trip for me, because, at 4.6ghz, hottest to coolest has been 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 1st core.
now at 4.8 the hottest to coolest is 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th. but at idle its 3rd, 4th, 2nd, 1st,

It's only 11 hours but I did 5 min per FTT so it went through all of them i'm assuming...
I'll run a longer test later.
I tried to run at 4.8ghz before and i would crash even with 1.45v and right away, now i can run at 1.34v but the only thing I changed was the cpu PLL setting.
Maybe it was a fluke i'll test it again later with the longer run.
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