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3/13/13 at 5:10pm
if f1 doesnt work then go to advanced, on the bottom row. you also need external drive to save screenshots, like a usb plugged in. otherwise they wont save.
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post #3212 of 3304
3/13/13 at 5:18pm
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Yep, I am not looking forward to summer, it will be about 5c warmer in my room. I will have to wait and see if adding a rad and gpu to my loop changes things. Your 5.1 on air is awesome.
I think it does have something to do with the motherboard, I have had good luck with the MVF. Look at bebimbap, he has 5.1 stable on air, that is very impressive, so my chip is not that out of the ordinary - I had to delid to get here. I like this chip, took me three tries to get it, so I am a little cautious. I would need upwards of 1.5v or maybe more to completely stabilize 5.1, and that extra .1 is not worth it to me. When I get time I might try to do some benching with 5.1, but I am not looking to get it 24/7 stable - too much voltage for me. Already posted a 5.5 in the 5.0 club.
Thanks, I can appreciate all the work that must have taken. Sorry, I thought the thread wasn't being moderated or updated anymore, glad you are back.

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3/13/13 at 10:50pm
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Just to show that it can be done:
3770k, 24+ hours, 5.0, 1.41v, zero event log occurrences:


Thats badass for an oldgeezer like urself! Good job. Mine needs 1.5 for that clock.
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3/14/13 at 11:35am
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if f1 doesnt work then go to advanced, on the bottom row. you also need external drive to save screenshots, like a usb plugged in. otherwise they wont save.

Okay F12 works as you say.

This is what I get when I press F1:-



Then when I click on Advanced it takes me here:-



I finally navigate to here and cant change anything from here:-



3D bios doesn't have the pll voltage listed amongst voltage section
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post #3215 of 3304
3/14/13 at 6:04pm
Belial,
Regarding you post elsewhere about Intel's XTU, you are right that it seems you would have to do two full stress tests, one for cpu and one for memory. I just ran it for 24 hours on the cpu and honestly I don't get how it is any better than prime.

The temps are measurable less, like 7c lower, which makes me question how much it is really stressing. Also even when you test memory it doesn't seem to test very much.

Anyway, I agree with your point that we need some conclusive evidence that it finds instabilities better or faster than Prime95. In my testing so far I have seen no evidence of it.
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3/15/13 at 1:18am
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Belial,
Regarding you post elsewhere about Intel's XTU, you are right that it seems you would have to do two full stress tests, one for cpu and one for memory. I just ran it for 24 hours on the cpu and honestly I don't get how it is any better than prime.

The temps are measurable less, like 7c lower, which makes me question how much it is really stressing. Also even when you test memory it doesn't seem to test very much.

Anyway, I agree with your point that we need some conclusive evidence that it finds instabilities better or faster than Prime95. In my testing so far I have seen no evidence of it.

Personally I run memtest for about a day or two @ stock speeds to make sure memory is good, then OC the ram to the speed I'm going to run it and then mem test it again for the same amount of time. I have lots of spare parts so I can do this while still using the then "current" machine. After I test each part individually i'll then OC the cpu and stress that with prime.

I think Ian Cuttress of Anandtech said Non-ecc memory has about 1 unrecoverable error per year for every GB of ram. just like a raid array the more drives you have the sooner you will have a non-recoverable error, the more memory you have the sooner you'll have one.
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3/17/13 at 4:36pm
I would also like to know whether 1.35 - 1.41 vcore at 78C highest temp max is safe for an ivy 24/7 usage?
If it is, am definitely getting a closed water loop setup in order to prime, am wallet ready, just realized my chip can task moderately heavy (video editing and encoding) at 4.8Ghz without WHEA errors nor crashing nor lockups.
So is it safe????????
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3/17/13 at 5:40pm
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I would also like to know whether 1.35 - 1.41 vcore at 78C highest temp max is safe for an ivy 24/7 usage?
If it is, am definitely getting a closed water loop setup in order to prime, am wallet ready, just realized my chip can task moderately heavy (video editing and encoding) at 4.8Ghz without WHEA errors nor crashing nor lockups.
So is it safe????????
I would love to give you a definitive answer, but literally no one knows for sure. It is assumed that 1.35v and below should be fine, and that over 1.5v you are in the risky zone. In between those two numbers we simply do not know yet. No one has even confirmed that over 1.5 with good temps causes problems yet. Ivy is not even a year old so we have to wait and see. I am running 1.41v 24/7, but I don't use my machine all the time, and I don't fold with it.

There is a big difference between stressing your machine all day everyday, and just using it sometimes and shutting it down at night. I am comfortable with 1.41v and real life temps below 60c, but I can afford a new chip in a couple years if the worst case scenario happens.

It usually takes delidding to get temps in an acceptable range to run over 1.4v 24/7.
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3/18/13 at 12:58am
I personaly got nothing against running at 1.5V for daily use, worked for me on my 2500K and I doubt this 3570K is any different.

Might see if I can push 5.2GHz below 1.55V.
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3/18/13 at 8:11pm
Alright gents, I just upgraded my fans on the h100 and will try for another shot at OCing...last time I was able to get 4.5ghz stable @ 1.22v but wasn't using any offsets,etc...lets see what we can do this time thumb.gif
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