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Which version of Prime are you using? I'm pretty sure it should recognize an i5-3570K.
    
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I also get that out of sync with prime even the latest with avx instruction sets, so I think what's important is that it you get 0 errors and 0 warnings but its weird to see 2 cores having done 1844 tests and passed while one has done 1808 test and the other trailing at 1772 tests all in the same time but all having passed.

I think reduction of pll voltage is working against my system, I am registering a high count of WHEA errors and reduce as I increase the voltage towards 1.8v and completely disappear at auto. I guess I will need a really strong cooler for my chip rather than work down the pll voltage. Who knows how to read exactly what auto setting voltage is?
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Hope this is enough info provided, i cant squeeze anything else with my 1680x1050 resolution.

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Still running as we speak biggrin.gif
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Hey, so during a long 24+ hour prime95 test with prime95's priority manually set to 'above normal' in task manager, HWInfo crashed (this program has stopped responding, please close message). Is this a sign of instability, or just something that happens when you set the priority of p95 to above normal? I think I've seen this happen before with stuff, i mean like chrome won't really load up pages for example when p95 priority is at above normal. Just curious what you guys think.

Funny how my validation isn't listed on the club even though I did a more exhaustive test - using a digital multimeter to confirm voltage, 35+ hours of prime95 testing with max ram tested and above normal priority manually set, making sure there are no whea logger or whea 19 errors (and you can pass 24 hours p95 with .05v less if you ignore whea errors), and displayed way more system information like my VRM temps, timings, benchmarks, etc, all because I used a more modern and better temperature monitoring program like HWinfo instead of the outdated crap that is realtemp. What a joke.

I'm not saying results shouldn't be included if they lack information, I'd say the opposite, but I display my temperatures with way more information than realtemp does and that's grounds for not being in the club. god forbid you support good programs, let's stick to old, archaic programs that don't get updated and have zero support.
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Hey, so during a long 24+ hour prime95 test with prime95's priority manually set to 'above normal' in task manager, HWInfo crashed (this program has stopped responding, please close message). Is this a sign of instability, or just something that happens when you set the priority of p95 to above normal? I think I've seen this happen before with stuff, i mean like chrome won't really load up pages for example when p95 priority is at above normal. Just curious what you guys think.

Funny how my validation isn't listed on the club even though I did a more exhaustive test - using a digital multimeter to confirm voltage, 35+ hours of prime95 testing with max ram tested and above normal priority manually set, making sure there are no whea logger or whea 19 errors (and you can pass 24 hours p95 with .05v less if you ignore whea errors), and displayed way more system information like my VRM temps, timings, benchmarks, etc, all because I used a more modern and better temperature monitoring program like HWinfo instead of the outdated crap that is realtemp. What a joke.

I'm not saying results shouldn't be included if they lack information, I'd say the opposite, but I display my temperatures with way more information than realtemp does and that's grounds for not being in the club. god forbid you support good programs, let's stick to old, archaic programs that don't get updated and have zero support.

Changing priority shouldn't really affect stability unless trying to do other things on the PC at the same time, but loading all cores & threads with prime96 at higher priority can make background services that need some clock cycles unhappy I suppose.
Realtemp does get updated, there was a new version fairly recently. For core temps it isn't necessarily better or worse than hwinfo, running both side by side everything is within a degree or 2.
Hwinfo does have more info, some is useful, some isn't. But more never hurts.
    
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In my tests I didn’t find using Prime at a higher priority found instabilities better than regular priority.

And the only way to go is Prime97 forget about that old Prime96 stuff.wink.gif
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Hey, so during a long 24+ hour prime95 test with prime95's priority manually set to 'above normal' in task manager, HWInfo crashed (this program has stopped responding, please close message). Is this a sign of instability, or just something that happens when you set the priority of p95 to above normal? I think I've seen this happen before with stuff, i mean like chrome won't really load up pages for example when p95 priority is at above normal. Just curious what you guys think.

Funny how my validation isn't listed on the club even though I did a more exhaustive test - using a digital multimeter to confirm voltage, 35+ hours of prime95 testing with max ram tested and above normal priority manually set, making sure there are no whea logger or whea 19 errors (and you can pass 24 hours p95 with .05v less if you ignore whea errors), and displayed way more system information like my VRM temps, timings, benchmarks, etc, all because I used a more modern and better temperature monitoring program like HWinfo instead of the outdated crap that is realtemp. What a joke.

I'm not saying results shouldn't be included if they lack information, I'd say the opposite, but I display my temperatures with way more information than realtemp does and that's grounds for not being in the club. god forbid you support good programs, let's stick to old, archaic programs that don't get updated and have zero support.

Changing priority shouldn't really affect stability unless trying to do other things on the PC at the same time, but loading all cores & threads with prime96 at higher priority can make background services that need some clock cycles unhappy I suppose.
Realtemp does get updated, there was a new version fairly recently. For core temps it isn't necessarily better or worse than hwinfo, running both side by side everything is within a degree or 2.
Hwinfo does have more info, some is useful, some isn't. But more never hurts.

Hm, I don't know about that. It seems to me, that when raising priority, unstable overclocks will fail sooner, ie will fail in 10 minutes instead of 1 hour. I don't know if it really affects stability, I think that low and high priority will both fail in 24 hours if it' unstable, just a matter of when... but when logic would dictate if it fails sooner on high priority, what might fail at 30+ hours in low would fail within 24 on high. It shouldn't really affect stability, but there are certain background applications and such that will take priority over prime95 and that may be just enough to let an unstable system pass when it shouldn't.

Interestingly enough though, I've been testing a new ram overclock the last week and almost all of the instances where i get WHEA errors, is when I set prime95 to low priority and then watch youtube videos. It will still fail within 24 hours if unstable on it's own but watching youtube seems to get whea errors within an hour on unstable ram overclocks. Basically I think you really need to run a gamut of stuff to ensure full stability but I always set prime95 priority to above normal, i mean it won't hurt the stress test at all so why not, right? Then I simply drop the priority if I need to use the computer for a bit (like right now). Obviously 24 hours straight of prime95 with not touching the computer is best, but this way I can run 30-40+ hour tests in a practical manner, which I think is better than shorter, uninterrupted tests.

So yea, I'm thinking setting prime95 priority to above normal simply made hwinfo unhappy. But then again, anytime something works other than how it's supposed to work, is a sign of instability. I mean like if your video driver crashes during prime95, that's obviously instability.

realtemp (and coretemp, for that matter) are old, unsupported programs that don't display nearly as much information as hwinfo and other, better programs, and displays the exact same information as hwinfo does. It's silly to say you need to have realtemp pics up for validation - i can understand if certain programs aren't accepted but hwinfo shows all the same readings. They all read from the exact same sensor for temperature. hwinfo is a way better program than coretemp or realtemp. Even cpu-z is worse than hwinfo. the guy has a thread on this forum and responds to posts in a quick fashion, he updates constantly, why are we not supporting one of our own?

Realtemp, coretemp, hwinfo, hwmonitor, etc, they will all have the exact same temperature readings because they are reading from the same sensor. As for the other info that hwinfo gives, you can hide whatever you dont want to monitor. Hwinfo just includes way more information - your VRM temps, motherboard temps, your cpu, ram, vtt, igpu, wattage, power consumption, current, power in and out. Averages for all readings, it displays and does everything that coretemp (warning values, tray icons, logitech display), realtemp (temp only...), cpu-z (system info), hwmonitor, rivatuner, all do already. I dont need to convince everyone here how it's an all-inclusive program with way better support and features and is actually up to date, but it's silly that a validation won't be accepted because it uses a modern program instead of the program that was used years ago when the club was formed. even when ivy bridge came out realtemp was crap.
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Just out of curiosity

How does setting prime95's priority affect the tests it is doing? Isn't the core and ram going to be used the same way and isn't the FFT size going to be the same?
  
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I used to do the long runs or prime95 but never fiddled with priority, so not really sure how it might affect things.

For cpu-z it has been the standard for so long that it is pretty much grandfathered in as the accepted app for validation & showing current clocks & voltage. Other programs have the same info, but just aren't as universally accepted. Realtemp likely just has the same kind of acceptance.
    
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