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post #781 of 3316
5/27/12 at 9:40am
Usually I don't need to change any settings to run AVX Prime. It just runs at +0.15v, that's all. Big deal.

Are you guys trying to lower your Vcore so that the 27.7 runs at the same load voltage as 26.6? wth.gif
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post #782 of 3316
5/27/12 at 9:45am
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because you still use not a fixed v-core.
try to set v-core manually and set llc to very high.
the v-core remain the same on load and idle.

Actually if you used a "fixed" vcore you still have droop even with "extreme" LLC or "very high" LLC, Notice in my post I put the "very high" LLC settings.
And your system isn't actually "remaining the same" on load and idle, it is just reporting a running average so you think its the same.

Any reverse feedback system has to notice a drop in voltage before increasing voltage, similarly it has to notice an surge in pressure before decreasing pressure.

So lets assume the VRMs are psychic and know when the drop in voltage is going to occur, so you will have to send a surge in front to unsure the drop doesn't happen.
and in the same way to drop the voltage back down under idle you would have to create a valley so you down blow your cpu up.

So anyway, if you use LLC just know you have been warned you might be sending spikes of voltage much higher than you anticipated.
I'll post a pic explaining this when I find it

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Edit: found it
Edited by bebimbap - 5/27/12 at 9:48am
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post #783 of 3316
5/27/12 at 9:50am
sorry for replying to my own post, but
The first pic is set on "normal" with no LLC

The 2nd pic is with LLC, probably "very high" setting one before extreme.

Notice the huge over shoot with LLC, and it actually takes longer to stabilize. Plus did you notice the huge negative overshoots?

Just know what you are getting into with LLC before you use it just letting everyone know. redface.gif

edit:
where i found the pics
http://www.masterslair.com/vdroop-and-load-line-calibration-is-vdroop-really-bad/
Edited by bebimbap - 5/27/12 at 10:01am
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post #784 of 3316
5/27/12 at 10:03am
Planning on 3700K hope to OC to 4.5. I am looking at either the ASUS P8Z77-V or the ASUS P8Z77-V LE.
The V has Digipower 8+4 and the LE has Digipower 6+2. Is this going to affect my OC ability?
I don't need more than 1 PCI and I like the position of the 8 PIN power plug on the LE.


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5/27/12 at 10:11am
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Planning on 3700K hope to OC to 4.5. I am looking at either the ASUS P8Z77-V or the ASUS P8Z77-V LE.
The V has Digipower 8+4 and the LE has Digipower 6+2. Is this going to affect my OC ability?
I don't need more than 1 PCI and I like the position of the 8 PIN power plug on the LE.
Len

They gave the Z77 less phases because the IB procs needed less than SB procs. But i heard even 4+2 is enough to achieve good oc.
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post #786 of 3316
5/27/12 at 10:40am
so being prime 27.7 stable means being prime 26.6 stable?
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5/27/12 at 10:59am
btw, the blend tests look to be different in 27.7

14 hours 14 minutes in and just completed a 50k test and doing a 1280k test. Here's the log of all the tests that have completed prior. It isn't showing the tests from the beginning because they get cut off as the test moves along.

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5/27/12 at 11:51am
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doh.gif
Sorry but that thought process is full of fail...
That being the case I am sure we could clock the living poop out of these chips and "stress" them at 25% load = A very nice low V OC wink.gif
If your chip is not being properly stressed then how can it be considered stable??
I did my posted run with v27. I assumed he wanted to know why 26.6 was posted in the rules, and I answered why I thought so. Did you see anything factually incorrect in my answer?
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5/27/12 at 11:57am
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btw, the blend tests look to be different in 27.7

14 hours 14 minutes in and just completed a 50k test and doing a 1280k test. Here's the log of all the tests that have completed prior. It isn't showing the tests from the beginning because they get cut off as the test moves along.

60
1344
72
1536
84
1728
100
1920
120
2240
140
2400
160
2688
192
2880
224
3200
256
3456
288
3840
336
400
480
10
560
16
640
20
720
24
800
28
896
35
1M
40
1152
50
1280

Run the Blend test with 1min per FFT and it should finish a loop in under two hours, with the full range visible. Do Edit > Copy Window and paste the list.
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5/27/12 at 12:12pm
Or just go to "results' in the prime folder and you can see what ran.
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