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i still need to grow some courage and cut off that ihs :/ anyone without other experience did this already?
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6/5/12 at 9:29am
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were you not hitting 98C ? thats what I meant, that is hot.. maybe you need to re-do TIM / re seat HS

I was hitting the 90s with the IBT. When I did the Prime95 blend, the hottest I got was 77.

If you think I should reapply, I will. If you think that IBT isn't really a good measure I will agree with that too lol.

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6/5/12 at 9:43am
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I was hitting the 90s with the IBT. When I did the Prime95 blend, the hottest I got was 77.
If you think I should reapply, I will. If you think that IBT isn't really a good measure I will agree with that too lol.
Thanks,
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Oh I thought I saw 98c someone told me 90c is ok but I think it's a bit high for a 24//7 I went down from 4.6 cause the temps were too high.

You can try reapplying the paste an X pattern has been recommended and re-seating hs will obviously be part of this process. one easy way to know you have to much paste on the 212 evo is if it has too much play in it when seated but the problem with figuring that out is you don't want to play with it since it will mess the paste application up. What i'm saying is it might be a good idea to re-apply reseat lol. You may do this process and nothing has changed, that is probably because these chips have crappy TIM / bad application under the IHS which unless you want to de-lid and void ur warranty although you could just re-glue it I guess if you needed to and no one would probably know if you did a good job. Not trying to sound like a know-it-all but I have re-seated this cooler / re pasted like 10 times since I built this thing not long ago mad.gif

Side-Note: I really believe unless your going to run water & de-lid your not going to get great temps on ivy most of the time although there are some nicer chips in this silicon lottery intel loves to make us play.
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6/5/12 at 10:55am
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Oh I thought I saw 98c someone told me 90c is ok but I think it's a bit high for a 24//7 I went down from 4.6 cause the temps were too high.
You can try reapplying the paste an X pattern has been recommended and re-seating hs will obviously be part of this process. one easy way to know you have to much paste on the 212 evo is if it has too much play in it when seated but the problem with figuring that out is you don't want to play with it since it will mess the paste application up. What i'm saying is it might be a good idea to re-apply reseat lol. You may do this process and nothing has changed, that is probably because these chips have crappy TIM / bad application under the IHS which unless you want to de-lid and void ur warranty although you could just re-glue it I guess if you needed to and no one would probably know if you did a good job. Not trying to sound like a know-it-all but I have re-seated this cooler / re pasted like 10 times since I built this thing not long ago mad.gif
Side-Note: I really believe unless your going to run water & de-lid your not going to get great temps on ivy most of the time although there are some nicer chips in this silicon lottery intel loves to make us play.

Sounds good. I might do a reapplication and reseat of the cooler. Thanks for the heads up.

And yeah the 98 was me, but that was when I was at 1.25V going for the 4.4 GHz tongue.gif For some reason it got really hot on IBT but maxed at 77 for Prime95 with the same settings.

I am currently at 4.2 GHz @ 1.22V and it seems stable so far. I max it at 76 in Prime95 and 85 in IBT on high.
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Doesn't sound like Prime95 is the latest version or your running something weird.
Prim95 v27.7 release should get that chip toasty with the avx instruction set running.
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6/5/12 at 11:52am
so whea errors means you're not stable?
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so whea errors means you're not stable?

Everyone seems to think so ya, I do.
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6/5/12 at 12:41pm
VC 1.100 / 4.4 / IBT 75c / P95 67c / LLC 2

VC 1.105 / 4.4 / IBT 75c / P95 68c / LLC 2

VC 1.115 / 4.4 / IBT 71c / p95 67c / LLC 3

speed step / all c states/ smart connect / rapid start all off.

Been working on this trying to get 4.4 100% stable as a daily OC since the jump in temps/volts to 4.6 seems to be too much.. I've noticed changing LLC from 2/3 drops temps by up to 4c under heavy load even w/ slightly more voltage.

cpu z reports 1.072 load vcore with my level 3 settings 1.096 idle. so I think it's doing what it should being lower on load?

idle temps are nice at this level 3 setting 25 low core 35 high core.

I couldn't seem to get anything to work right on level 4...

I have also noticed changing my PLL from auto (1.832 @ 4.4) to 1.586 my lowest allowed does not change temps and causes instability.

i'll run prime for 12 hours small fft w/ 10 mins fft tonight and hopefully this will be stable then i'm done. I'm happy w/ max temp of 71c in ibt.

Think I will run for 6 mo's then de-lid. or maybe until haswell comes out but I'm not sure if its 1155 socket?

I'm learning alot still feel clueless alot of the time though.

also this is not a stock 212 evo it has an extra pull fan exhausting towards the rear exit fan of the case I don't think it really helps I should get a water cooling loop. oh well my next pc will have a full custom loop (once I learn how to do that lol )
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so whea errors means you're not stable?

Means your cpu made a calculation error, but happened to correct it. next time it might not correct it. So to me, really very little difference from getting an error running prime where cpu didnt correct it, vs cpu double check catching it for prime seeing it. either way making errors, either way unstable.
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6/5/12 at 2:47pm
K guys... I need some advice here. I have had a bunch of help already, but think a little more would be beneficial.

I am currently at 4.2 GHz stable @ 1.22V. I max out at 70-76-76-70 for temps in Prime95.

If I knock the voltage any lower, then I get the "Prime95 has stopped responding" error. I also get this error when I try to do 4.3 GHz on anything less than 1.24V.

Here are my settings (The first 4 deal more with memory, the last 4 deal more with general settings, I figured all might help):
Note that a few have changed since I took these:
DRAM Freq now at 2400
Fixed Voltage at 1.22V
CPU Load-Line is Level 2
DRAM Voltage is 1.56V
VTT Voltage is 1.178V
Memory Timings are 11-11-11-28
CPU PLL Voltage is 1.586V which is the minimum
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ALL help is welcome. The voltage needed for 4.2 GHz is the worst that I have seen anywhere :/ I figured you guys could help to figure out why it is so bad.

If there are mods out there that might help, even if they involve taking the casing off, I might consider it. Keep in mind, I am considering ALL alternatives.

Thanks in advance!
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