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I think after switching between Fedora and Arch a few times, I decided to go with Fedora for now biggrin.gif
But I still don't get very good battery life (slightly over 2 hours) so I'll probably be dual booting it. However, Arch seems very interesting and I believe that will be my OS in the future, but just not right now. So much for a beginner to learn... haha. Thanks everybody!
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For a beginner I would go with Debian.I have taken 4 classes,all using Debian as the OS of interest (or course all were not beginner).Easy to learn the network interfaces side,install a proxy (Squid),configure internal network, using the disk partition and LVM and RAID type of choice is easy to learn,DansGuardian for web filtering,bind9 for your DNS services,Dovecot for mail services,Apache2 for website work,ssh and RSA keys for data transmission security.The most difficult or better said part that generates the most discussion is backup technique and policies.From what I have seen,most people get it when either shown or are told how to do this stuff with Debian.Next choice would have been CentOS.

I almost forgot,there is a bit of a learning curve using any text editor (I settled on vim).I do not know how to get around the inital fumbling around with the text editor.
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it just eats my battery life like no other! I've installed various Linux distros on my Dell Studio XPS 16 and I literally get less than 1.5 hours of battery life on all of them. On Windows I'm able to get about 4 hours. Why? Why can't I use Linux on my laptop?

Try out ubuntu.  I had the exact same problem on my acer.  However they updated ubuntu last week and 12.04 LTS is giving me better battery life than windows

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Hey guys just a small update in case anyone still follows this. So I've decided that Linux on my laptop = definitely not happening. sadsmiley.gif I just can't get the battery life I need no matter what I try. However, once I get my computer in its new case (Corsair 650D), I will be installing a second drive to dual boot it between Windows and Arch! Woo it's Arch time! And yes, I need to keep my Windows install for all of my games.

In case anyone still follows this, I want to know what desktop environment/ login manager you would reccomend. I seem to have slight gripes with almost all of them so I am having a lot of trouble picking one. Ironically, I really like Unity (unlike almost the entire Linux community), but I really want to stay away from Ubuntu. Any ideas?
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Battery life is likely due to the older kernels. Arch shouldn't have the problem as my laptop still pulls in about 6-7 hours of battery life and it's almost 2 years old now ( battery is roughly around 75% capacity I believe ). And there should be a way to get newer kernels on Ubuntu and the likes as well without too much hassle.
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In arch, NOTHING power managment related is included. You have to install and configure ACPI to do everything- and configure it to your specific laptop. Yes, it is a pain. It is worth it though!

You need to install support for and configure:
CPU frequency adjustment (so it throttles down)
Brightness
Wifi power savings
Disabling ethernet when on wifi
GPU throttling
etc etc...
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In arch, NOTHING power managment related is included. You have to install and configure ACPI to do everything- and configure it to your specific laptop. Yes, it is a pain. It is worth it though!
You need to install support for and configure:
CPU frequency adjustment (so it throttles down)
Brightness
Wifi power savings
Disabling ethernet when on wifi
GPU throttling
etc etc...

Not mine. Biggest factor is screen brightness, and that's set from the bios. Ethernet, also, disabled at bios level. Biggest factor is still screen brightness though.

But no need to configure anything really. By default DPMS should be on which will throw the display to sleep after 5-10 minutes I believe it's set to.

But the biggest issue is that the "stable" kernel that most distro's were or possibly still are using ( not sure as I don't use any of them anymore so doesn't bother me ) is the power regression bug from 2.6 kernels. I would imagine though with 12.04 being released that Ubuntu at the least would have a somewhat newer kernel with the bug fixed in it.
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Hey guys just a small update in case anyone still follows this. So I've decided that Linux on my laptop = definitely not happening. sadsmiley.gif I just can't get the battery life I need no matter what I try. However, once I get my computer in its new case (Corsair 650D), I will be installing a second drive to dual boot it between Windows and Arch! Woo it's Arch time! And yes, I need to keep my Windows install for all of my games.
In case anyone still follows this, I want to know what desktop environment/ login manager you would reccomend. I seem to have slight gripes with almost all of them so I am having a lot of trouble picking one. Ironically, I really like Unity (unlike almost the entire Linux community), but I really want to stay away from Ubuntu. Any ideas?

Gnome 3 is good. It is like a mix of Gnome 2 and Unity. You'd have to go into its settings and enable your desktop though.
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In case anyone still follows this, I want to know what desktop environment/ login manager you would reccomend. I seem to have slight gripes with almost all of them so I am having a lot of trouble picking one. Ironically, I really like Unity (unlike almost the entire Linux community), but I really want to stay away from Ubuntu. Any ideas?

You could get it on Arch, except that it's in the AUR and not the official repos.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unity
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