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IB doesn't compete with SB-E...
 
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Has anyone read reviews with IB and Indigo Xtreme as the TIM? I'm going to be upgrading my cpu & mobo soon and was goiing to put the cpu under water with Indigo.


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very nice. already got the board. 3770k for me!
 
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post #34 of 36
Thier CPU-Z showed a ES chip.

Would have liked to see a retail stepping but it probably wouldnt have mattered.
    
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not to be a buzz kill about the pursuit of performance but with the current crop of games - as my pc is for games, and most applications, I'm still struggling to justify upgrading from my i7-930@4.2 HT on... I mean i love being at the forefront of tech but it just doesn't seem like all the extra power is actually going anywhere.

Sure i get into benching for a month or two every time i do a new build and i want to see how high its clocks can go, but for real world usage i feel like hardware is getting so far ahead of the coding of software that most of the power of my system isn't used anyway.

On the plus side, it sounds like it will be affordable unlike x79-2011, which is just stupidly expensive.

anywho...just my 2cents.
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Watercooling is much more useful in situations when you have a CPU that sucks lots of power and produces lots of heat (note high temps do not mean that the chip produces lots of heat). than in situations where you have a low power chip with high temps. Why WC is normally considered really good is because it can dissipate all that heat your CPU produces faster and better than your average air cooler.
The problem with IB is that the small amount of heat that the chip produces (compared to something like nehalem, gulftown, SB-E or even SB) has to be dissipated from a die much smaller than usual (also 3d transistors might have something to do with this as well) and as such it's harder to do. This is why the temps are higher and why just adding say more radiators with a watercooling loop doesn't help with IB.
What IB wants is sub ambient cooling. Phase for example should make IB shine. Haven't really seen any tests though.

Yeah I kind of see what you were getting at. I'm a chemical engineer so tend to take these things very literally, expecially with regards to heat transfer!

Although the IB die may be smaller, you are assuming that the heat transfer resistance due to the thermal conductivity of the metals used has a significant effect of the rate of heat transfer.

This would not be the case at all, the heat duty of your pc cooling hardware is always mostly limited by the aircooling part of the heat transfer process, whether that be on a watercooling radiator or on a traditional air cooling set up.

I expect that a decent watercooling set up would have little trouble keeping the temps down on IB.

Although I'm going to wait for a revision...
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