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I currently have the Dayton Audio B652 bookshelf speakers with the DTA-1 T-Amp (15wpc.) I will be getting the Dayton Audio sub-800 subwoofer (sub-80 is discontinued) at the end of this week. I am interested in purchasing a better ampifier though, and would like to get the Dayton Audio DTA-100a (50wpc.) But, I was doing some reading and read about stereo receivers. I found this Sherwood receiver (it is also on parts express) and it's priced the same as the DTA-100a basically. My question is, what would be the better choice, and why. Im assuming the 100wpc would be better, but I do not want to sacrifice any sound quality. These will be connected to my PC via 3.5mm to sound card (Asus Xonar D1.) Thanks.

Also if anyone has any changes I could make to my setup overall, please do tell.

Edit: I am aware that I will need to use an RCA to 3.5mm stereo cable, unless I use the 3.5mm phone jack from the front of the receiver.

One more thing, I am looking forward to upgrading* my speakers to the Cerwin-Vega VE-5M bookshelf speakers in the future. I may use something different though, such as the Sony SS-B3000. The receiver says that it handles up to 20kHz, but the Sony speakers handle up to 50kHz. Does this mean that if I use that receiver, those speakers won't be able to play anything above what the receiver handles?

Edit 2: If I used the receiver, would there be any (noticeable) delay between the audio and the video on the PC?
Edited by tal67 - 4/25/12 at 5:46am
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Have you thought about using a pair of active speakers such as the BX5a's from m-audio?
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Have you thought about using a pair of active speakers such as the BX5a's from m-audio?

I have not. So, they power themselves? Do they sound as good (better?) than what I referenced? They are priced reasonably as well. Can I still run them into that subwoofer?

Edit: Or, can I simply run them into the sound card, and then run the subwoofer into the sound card?
Edited by tal67 - 4/25/12 at 8:11am
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I have not. So, they power themselves? Do they sound as good (better?) than what I referenced? They are priced reasonably as well. Can I still run them into that subwoofer?
Edit: Or, can I simply run them into the sound card, and then run the subwoofer into the sound card?

Yes, they are bi-amped active monitors. So each speaker has it's own internal amplifier. They sound phenomenal, I own BX5a's and a pair of Infinity Primus 163's pushed by a 80w AVR and I would say the BX5a's are as clear if not better sounding than the 163's.

You would run the sub from the sound-card and then the speakers from the sub-woofer so you use the sub's crossover. Alternatively I'm pretty sure you can do the same with a sound-card though.
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Yes, they are bi-amped active monitors. So each speaker has it's own internal amplifier. They sound phenomenal, I own BX5a's and a pair of Infinity Primus 163's pushed by a 80w AVR and I would say the BX5a's are as clear if not better sounding than the 163's.
You would run the sub from the sound-card and then the speakers from the sub-woofer so you use the sub's crossover. Alternatively I'm pretty sure you can do the same with a sound-card though.

I see. Thanks a lot. I will add this to my list of considerations. To anyone else that has a comment to make about the stereo receiver/t-amp, feel free to chime in.

Edit: Also, I would like your opinion on the fidelity of the BX5a speaker pair Yak. Are you able to hear a lot of flaws in your music, seeing as monitors are mainly geared toward studios, so that engineers can weed out the flaws in a recording? And if so, does this dampen your hearing experience?

Edit 2: What about balancing* issues?
Edited by tal67 - 4/25/12 at 9:03am
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I see. Thanks a lot. I will add this to my list of considerations. To anyone else that has a comment to make about the stereo receiver/t-amp, feel free to chime in.
Edit: Also, I would like your opinion on the fidelity of the BX5a speaker pair Yak. Are you able to hear a lot of flaws in your music, seeing as monitors are mainly geared toward studios, so that engineers can weed out the flaws in a recording? And if so, does this dampen your hearing experience?
Edit 2: What about balancing* issues?

Edit #1:

If anything it increases it. Certain frequencies are so clear and perfect it feels like the speakers don't even exist and the sound is coming from seemingly everywhere. If an artist has flaws in their track, than it's the artists fault, any high level artist would if anything include things that are supposed to be there that most speakers can't pick up.

Edit #2:

No balancing issues what so ever, Unless you plan on being them in a worst case scenario for signal noise, It will not be an issue. Most speakers don't even have the balancing option. (speaker wire is not balanced)
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Edit #1:
If anything it increases it. Certain frequencies are so clear and perfect it feels like the speakers don't even exist and the sound is coming from seemingly everywhere. If an artist has flaws in their track, than it's the artists fault, any high level artist would if anything include things that are supposed to be there that most speakers can't pick up.
Edit #2:
No balancing issues what so ever, Unless you plan on being them in a worst case scenario for signal noise, It will not be an issue. Most speakers don't even have the balancing option. (speaker wire is not balanced)

I see. Using the monitors is extremely tempting then. Hopefully configuring them to work with a PC isn't out of my bounds. Would I use a 3.5mm-TRS cable to the sound card for each monitor, or use a Y splitter for both as one 3.5mm port (read that's not best.)
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I see. Using the monitors is extremely tempting then. Hopefully configuring them to work with a PC isn't out of my bounds. Would I use a 3.5mm-TRS cable to the sound card for each monitor, or use a Y splitter for both as one 3.5mm port (read that's not best.)

x2 TRS 1/4" -> 3.5mm to the sound card would be best. BUT I have mine setup through a 1/4" TRS -> rca -> L/R RCA to 3.5mm adapter and I really doubt there would be a difference if they were balanced.
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Why do you need a new t-amp? Does yours not get loud enough without distortion?

I'm using an smsl amp-03 ta2020 I got from ebay for $30. They're connected to a pair of polk monitor 30 series ii and I couldn't ask for more.
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Why do you need a new t-amp? Does yours not get loud enough without distortion?
I'm using an smsl amp-03 ta2020 I got from ebay for $30. They're connected to a pair of polk monitor 30 series ii and I couldn't ask for more.

I don't need a new T-Amp, per say, but am upgrading it whenever I decide to get the new speakers. Also, I like the headphone port on the front along with the iPod/mp3 port. I am beginning to think that I notice distortion, but honestly, if you as me, I think that it's really all in my head.
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