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If your looking to buy an i3 still, then why not go with a second hand chip if you can find it? There is no danger that it has been overclocked (at least more than a 100 or so MHz) as the i3's all have locked multipliers. This could save you some money to buy a better GPU. Perhaps consider getting the CPU second hand, also.
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^ This, get a second hand i3 2120 and use the saved money on a 560 Ti gpu or better.
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Correct me if I'm wwrong everyone but the G530 is just an i3 without the hyperthreading. So, if you don't have the 460 already I wouldn't get it. I would stick with the 9800GT for now and either the G530 or an i3-2100 would be fine for what you want to do now and then later on pick up the 2500K and a videocard better than the 460 (multiple options there).
*note it's a little confusing to tell what you have and what you're keeping/buying

Okay... what I HAVE

GPU: 9800GT
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You can't. OP has a H61 motherboard, and want to keep this budget. G530 is not an i3 without HT. It does not have HD 2000 nor extra L3 cache like i3 does.
I will incline to agree on getting something better than 460. HD 7770 will be my recommendation.

ooohh the 7770 was actually something I was considering, it's around the same price point I was looking at.

I'm just looking for a bump in GPU performance over the course of the next few weeks to play D3 without hiccups, I don't know much about bottlenecking with a G530, if I could get the G530 right now and not worry about say the 7770 getting choked out and it being a good performing card, I'm good with that. If I need to bump it up to an i3 2100 and it would last me and I had to get a Video card in two weeks instead then I can survive. I'm looking for minimum for the next 4-6 months as far as the CPU goes because I plan to get an SSD and upgrade my I/O devices before then.

Also I my monitor is 1680x1050 so that can be taken into consideration. In about 4-6 months I will upgrade my monitor, so I'm not looking to get a higher end CPU right now as I don't think it's neccessary?
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Round-up: (from my point of view)

Buy a second hand i3. (i5, if you can find on for the right price).

Spend the saved money on the GPU, or buy a much better second hand GPU. For example.

EDIT: Also, the 7770 is not as fast as the GTX460. Although it uses less power and generates less heat. The GTX 460's can also be had for less than $100 on ebay.

G530: Sandy bride or not, this is still a $40 celeron CPU. I had a Celery E3300 as my main CPU for almost a year. Not fun. Games would lag and stutter, sound would jump etc. You wouldn't even be able to overclock yours to 4GHz as I did with mine. The 7770 would almost undoubtedly be bottle necked in most if not all games, the GTX 460 and above would be an almost pointless buy with that CPU.
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Round-up: (from my point of view)
Buy a second hand i3. (i5, if you can find on for the right price).
Spend the saved money on the GPU, or buy a much better second hand GPU. For example.
EDIT: Also, the 7770 is not as fast as the GTX460. Although it uses less power and generates less heat. The GTX 460's can also be had for less than $100 on ebay.
G530: Sandy bride or not, this is still a $40 celeron CPU. I had a Celery E3300 as my main CPU for almost a year. Not fun. Games would lag and stutter, sound would jump etc. You wouldn't even be able to overclock yours to 4GHz as I did with mine. The 7770 would almost undoubtedly be bottle necked in most if not all games, the GTX 460 and above would be an almost pointless buy with that CPU.

So in your advice you're saying go for the i3 at minimum to not be held back with the 7770 or the 460?

i5 isn't an option, I plan to go 200+ motherboard with a higher end cpu or even Ivy.
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So in your advice you're saying go for the i3 at minimum to not be held back with the 7770 or the 460?
i5 isn't an option, I plan to go 200+ motherboard with a higher end cpu or even Ivy.

In a nutshell, yes. I'm saying that I think a G530 will hold back the 7770, even more so with the GTX460.

If, however, your going to buy a better CPU 6 or so months down the line, they you may as well go with the G530 if the money that you would save is significant enough to make up for the noticeable drop in performance. There will be a drop in FPS with any of the card that have been suggested so far with the Celeron.

But again, if buying the G530 means that you can go and get a second hand card like the GTX480 that I posted above, then by all means go with it over the i3. Even better, buy a second hand i3 and the second hand GTX 480, it's a win win!
 
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In a nutshell, yes. I'm saying that I think a G530 will hold back the 7770, even more so with the GTX460.
If, however, your going to buy a better CPU 6 or so months down the line, they you may as well go with the G530 if the money that you would save is significant enough to make up for the noticeable drop in performance. There will be a drop in FPS with any of the card that have been suggested so far with the Celeron.
But again, if buying the G530 means that you can go and get a second hand card like the GTX480 that I posted above, then by all means go with it over the i3. Even better, buy a second hand i3 and the second hand GTX 480, it's a win win!

Depends on the game he is playing.

I am running a g620 + a GTX 580 and it doesn't hold my card back in most games i play except bf3. Even so i would go for a g620 over a g530 just due to experience with the g620.

I moved from a 2600k to a g620 and I would have to say i thought i was going to lose a ton of performance but i really didn't lose that much.
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I moved from a 2600k to a g620 and I would have to say i thought i was going to lose a ton of performance but i really didn't lose that much.

offtopic.gif Why did you move from a 2600k to a G620?

Back on topic: The G620 is a fair bit faster than the G530. Aside from costing $20 more, it has 50% more L3 cache and 200MHz more on the core than the G530. Regardless, this backs up my idea of buying a second had GTX480 and the G530, at least you're now safe in the knowledge that the bottleneck wont be too huge.

My E3300 didn't let my old GTS450 get to 80% usage in most games. GTAIV and the 450 would see <30%... I guess sandy bridge really is a heck of a lot faster than Wolfdale.
 
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I moved from a 2600k to a g620 and I would have to say i thought i was going to lose a ton of performance but i really didn't lose that much.
offtopic.gif Why did you move from a 2600k to a G620?
Back on topic: The G620 is a fair bit faster than the G530. Aside from costing $20 more, it has 50% more L3 cache and 200MHz more on the core than the G530. Regardless, this backs up my idea of buying a second had GTX480 and the G530, at least you're now safe in the knowledge that the bottleneck wont be too huge.
My E3300 didn't let my old GTS450 get to 80% usage in most games. GTAIV and the 450 would see <30%... I guess sandy bridge really is a heck of a lot faster than Wolfdale.

Moved because of ivy biggrin.gif

had to capitalize on the 2600k before ivy dropped and therefore bought the g620 I have now as a place holder.

and yes the g620 is prob one of the best budget processors i have ever used its pretty powerful for a Pentium and it games pretty well!

Games such as Witcher 2, Reckoning, and Deus Ex i usually get 100% percent cpu usage along with 90+% gpu usage. Overall i am happy with it.
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Errh... From what I've read, I'd see if you can buy back your 2600k. I don't like the sound of a thermal wall at 1.25 volts. rolleyes.gif
 
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