Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › Upgrade Help
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Upgrade Help - Page 2

post #11 of 50
If I am in your shoes, I would get a new Motherboard, Processor, RAM, and Video card. Pricey? Yup. I looked at the site you mentioned and came up with the following:

1 GB DDR2

Athlon x2 4200+ AM2

Abit SLI board

XFX 7900GT

This would be in an almost perfect world...
Main Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 Gigabyte P35-DS3R 8800GTS 320MB 4GB G.Skill HK 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB AAKS and others Optiarc DVD-RAM Vista Ultimate x64 20" & 22" Samsung LCDs 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse 700W ThermalTake ToughPower Antec P182 MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
Main Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 Gigabyte P35-DS3R 8800GTS 320MB 4GB G.Skill HK 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB AAKS and others Optiarc DVD-RAM Vista Ultimate x64 20" & 22" Samsung LCDs 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse 700W ThermalTake ToughPower Antec P182 MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 50
Thread Starter 
ah, i've looked at:
Athlon Venice 3500+ - £60.00 gbp
Athlon Venice 3800+ - £70.00 gbp
and also AMD X2 4200 and 4600 at £130 & £155 gbp respectively

are these worth it?

If so which mobo and memory?

Thanks for your help
Dream Machine 3
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans AM2 Gigabyte GA-M55S (S3) XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb Corsair XMS2 1gb x2 PC5300 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Sata II 320GB Samsung DVD+-R/R/RAM 18x Dual Layer Vista Ultimate Iiyama Prolite E431S 17in 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech Cordless Bundle Antec Neo HE ATX 500W Xion III Onyx Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Dream Machine 3
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans AM2 Gigabyte GA-M55S (S3) XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb Corsair XMS2 1gb x2 PC5300 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Sata II 320GB Samsung DVD+-R/R/RAM 18x Dual Layer Vista Ultimate Iiyama Prolite E431S 17in 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech Cordless Bundle Antec Neo HE ATX 500W Xion III Onyx Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 50
Your main limitation is that you want to keep your current video card. It's AGP, and as Duke said, choices will be limited. I agree that socket 939 is your best bet, and just stick to DDR.

The alternative is to go all out, and upgrade CPU/MOBO/RAM/Video, but then we're talking about a totally different budget.

For your £120 I would look for something like this:
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Socket939, San DiegoCore, 2.2GHz, 1MB Cache, Retail £64.26 Inc VAT
Asrock 939Dual-SATA2 (Socket 939 & Upgradable to AM2) AGP & PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-002-AK) £46.99 Including VAT at 17.5% (bottom one - the others do NOT have an AGP slot; the yellow slot is for an AM2 daugher board!!)

If you want dual core, replace the CPU with this one:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Socket 939, ManchesterCore, 2x 2.0GHz, 1MBCache, Retail £103.98 Inc VAT

I do agree with saving for a new system, with a dual core CPU, new RAM, new motherboard, and new video. How much do you think you can scrape together at the most?
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB WD SATA None Windows XP Pro 32-bit HP Pavilion f1703 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
N/A Corsair HX520 Coolermaster Cavalier N/A 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB WD SATA None Windows XP Pro 32-bit HP Pavilion f1703 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
N/A Corsair HX520 Coolermaster Cavalier N/A 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 50
I would go x2. It all depends on budget.

Get DDR2 800, and in my opinion, an SLi Board, but I'm an nVidia guy...

EDIT: Since your current GFX is AGP, it would be best, and more expensive to go PCIe. If Money is an issue, get something cheaper than the 7900GT I mentioned earler, such as a 7600GT.
Main Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 Gigabyte P35-DS3R 8800GTS 320MB 4GB G.Skill HK 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB AAKS and others Optiarc DVD-RAM Vista Ultimate x64 20" & 22" Samsung LCDs 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse 700W ThermalTake ToughPower Antec P182 MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
Main Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 Gigabyte P35-DS3R 8800GTS 320MB 4GB G.Skill HK 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB AAKS and others Optiarc DVD-RAM Vista Ultimate x64 20" & 22" Samsung LCDs 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse 700W ThermalTake ToughPower Antec P182 MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 50
Thread Starter 
Wow thanks very much for your responces SteveMc and Chozart, i think my first estimate on budget was a little naive, i am trying not to say i will spend whatever it costs becuase im not an overclocker (but probably will take the plunge on the CPU i choose), but i do like games so i want a good system

It sounds like sticking with my current beloved 9800 pro is holding me back big time, if i upgraded video cards what sort of system could i go for? SteveMc's idea seems ok, opinions?

Thanks so much
Dream Machine 3
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans AM2 Gigabyte GA-M55S (S3) XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb Corsair XMS2 1gb x2 PC5300 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Sata II 320GB Samsung DVD+-R/R/RAM 18x Dual Layer Vista Ultimate Iiyama Prolite E431S 17in 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech Cordless Bundle Antec Neo HE ATX 500W Xion III Onyx Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Dream Machine 3
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans AM2 Gigabyte GA-M55S (S3) XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb Corsair XMS2 1gb x2 PC5300 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Sata II 320GB Samsung DVD+-R/R/RAM 18x Dual Layer Vista Ultimate Iiyama Prolite E431S 17in 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech Cordless Bundle Antec Neo HE ATX 500W Xion III Onyx Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 50
I don't think you need to really get DDR2 800 with an AM2 CPU. They don't overclock that high (HTT of 400MHz or more) to warrant that extra expense. Some good DDR2 667 would do just fine. SLI is only worth it if you have a large resolution monitor (at least 1680 x 1050 or 1600 x 1200).

Here is a suggestion for a complete AM2 rig:

That will total £355.86, but you'll be much more future ready. I picked only a single 1GB stick of RAM now, so it's easy to add the second one later.

Alternatively, if you have more money to spend, you should definately look at the Core 2 Duo from Intel. It beats AMD quite convincingly. Give us a number what you are willing to spend on the entire rig.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB WD SATA None Windows XP Pro 32-bit HP Pavilion f1703 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
N/A Corsair HX520 Coolermaster Cavalier N/A 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB WD SATA None Windows XP Pro 32-bit HP Pavilion f1703 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
N/A Corsair HX520 Coolermaster Cavalier N/A 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 50
Surely you could get an E6300 build for that price.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6750 @ 3.1GHz ASus P5K-E XFX HD5750 2x2GB Team Elite PC6400 + 2x2GB G.Skill Pi Series. 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
500GB 7200.10 + 160gb WD Windows Vista x64 SP1 Dell SP23" something W. Saitek USB 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
750W Something or other. Beige ATX Mid Case Belkin GLOWY Optical None 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6750 @ 3.1GHz ASus P5K-E XFX HD5750 2x2GB Team Elite PC6400 + 2x2GB G.Skill Pi Series. 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
500GB 7200.10 + 160gb WD Windows Vista x64 SP1 Dell SP23" something W. Saitek USB 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
750W Something or other. Beige ATX Mid Case Belkin GLOWY Optical None 
  hide details  
Reply
post #18 of 50
Thread Starter 
Is the 7900Gt a top end card at the moment? Whenever i go to upgrade my system (which is years apart) i have to get up to speed with about 2 years technology and terminology (argh!), i understand SLI is a new technology in mobo's, presumably just for Nvidia yea? And its pretty new good stuff??
Dream Machine 3
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans AM2 Gigabyte GA-M55S (S3) XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb Corsair XMS2 1gb x2 PC5300 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Sata II 320GB Samsung DVD+-R/R/RAM 18x Dual Layer Vista Ultimate Iiyama Prolite E431S 17in 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech Cordless Bundle Antec Neo HE ATX 500W Xion III Onyx Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Dream Machine 3
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans AM2 Gigabyte GA-M55S (S3) XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb Corsair XMS2 1gb x2 PC5300 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Sata II 320GB Samsung DVD+-R/R/RAM 18x Dual Layer Vista Ultimate Iiyama Prolite E431S 17in 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech Cordless Bundle Antec Neo HE ATX 500W Xion III Onyx Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart
I don't think you need to really get DDR2 800 with an AM2 CPU. They don't overclock that high (HTT of 400MHz or more) to warrant that extra expense. Some good DDR2 667 would do just fine. SLI is only worth it if you have a large resolution monitor (at least 1680 x 1050 or 1600 x 1200).

Here is a suggestion for a complete AM2 rig:

That will total £355.86, but you'll be much more future ready. I picked only a single 1GB stick of RAM now, so it's easy to add the second one later.

Alternatively, if you have more money to spend, you should definately look at the Core 2 Duo from Intel. It beats AMD quite convincingly. Give us a number what you are willing to spend on the entire rig.
Good Call...

My only thing is... go for an SLi board if you can afford it. It gives more oppertunity for future upgrades.

EDIT: I think the top nVidia card is the 7950GTX.... but I am not sure.... I think the top of the line ATi is a x1950xtx... that may or may not be 100% correct......
Main Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 Gigabyte P35-DS3R 8800GTS 320MB 4GB G.Skill HK 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB AAKS and others Optiarc DVD-RAM Vista Ultimate x64 20" & 22" Samsung LCDs 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse 700W ThermalTake ToughPower Antec P182 MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
Main Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 Gigabyte P35-DS3R 8800GTS 320MB 4GB G.Skill HK 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB AAKS and others Optiarc DVD-RAM Vista Ultimate x64 20" & 22" Samsung LCDs 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse 700W ThermalTake ToughPower Antec P182 MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20 of 50
Thread Starter 
the E6300 is one of the new intel core's isn't it?

I havn't seen those sold in the UK yet (well... in ebuyer anyway)
Dream Machine 3
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans AM2 Gigabyte GA-M55S (S3) XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb Corsair XMS2 1gb x2 PC5300 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Sata II 320GB Samsung DVD+-R/R/RAM 18x Dual Layer Vista Ultimate Iiyama Prolite E431S 17in 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech Cordless Bundle Antec Neo HE ATX 500W Xion III Onyx Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Dream Machine 3
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans AM2 Gigabyte GA-M55S (S3) XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb Corsair XMS2 1gb x2 PC5300 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Sata II 320GB Samsung DVD+-R/R/RAM 18x Dual Layer Vista Ultimate Iiyama Prolite E431S 17in 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech Cordless Bundle Antec Neo HE ATX 500W Xion III Onyx Black 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD - General
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › Upgrade Help