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post #1 of 20
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hi im thinking wich bundle to buy for gaming

G.Skill 8GB (2x4GB) Dual Channel Kit Ripjaws X Red (DDR3 1866/9-10-9-28/1.5v) - F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL
Intel Core i7 3820 Retail - (2011/Quad Core/3.60GHz/10MB/Sandy Bridge/130W) - BX80619I73820
Asus Rampage IV Extreme (Socket 2011/Intel X79 Express/DDR3/S-ATA 600/Extended ATX):


or


i7 2600K & ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 & CORSAIR 32GB DDR3 1600


please help me with choosing right stuff for me cuz i dont have any idea redface.gif
post #2 of 20
Both of them look very overpriced. You don't need 32GB of ram or 1866 speed ram for gaming, so that's probably costing you for no benefit. The hyperthreading on i7s aren't going to help you over an i5-2500k or i5-3570k. And both motherboards are more expensive than you need.

Either will do well for gaming, but you'd do much better buying parts individually and getting a cheaper i5. Even if your budget is large, spending on a graphics card or better monitor will do better than getting an i7 and hot-shot RAM.

If you want more advice than that, make sure you specify, in detail, what you're going to use your computer for (be specific in terms of software - what games, other progrrams, etc), what monitor you have (or want to have), and where you're buying parts/what country you're in.

P.S. oh, and what parts you already purchased/have lying around.
    
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ok thx for reply biggrin.gif

i have
Gigabyte GZ-G2 Plus PC Gaming Case Chassis Mid Tower ATX and psu
and corsair ssd force 3 120 gb plus 1000gb hard drive
i have a 32 inch lg hd tv instead of the monitor
im going to buy geforce gtx 680 (not sure wich one i should go for, maybe evga ???)
i will use this pc for games and some movies will use windows 7 ultimate 64
i live in scotland will buy on ebay and willing to spend 1200 pounds (cpu ram motherboard graphics card)
post #4 of 20
first kit will need quad channel ram not dual.aside from that and the fact you will need to shop around go for first build.8 gb will be plenty in quad config
post #5 of 20
Get the i7 .it will be used if you stream( only streamer gamer exeption are those opencl user,exemple,arcsoft or winzip)if you dont plan to opencl your waythen get the i7.
post #6 of 20
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ok what about this one


Asus Rampage IV Extreme (Socket 2011/Intel X79 Express/DDR3/S-ATA 600/Extended ATX):
Intel Core i7 3820 Retail - (2011/Quad Core/3.60GHz/10MB/Sandy Bridge/130W) - BX80619I73820
G.Skill 16GB (4x4GB) Quad Channel Kit Ripjaws Z (DDR3 2133/11-11-11-30/1.6v) - F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL


and is there any difference between gtx 680 evga,palit ,etc ???
post #7 of 20
2500K, some mobo, 8 - 16Gb of 1600MHz DUAL channel ram, gtx 680.
You really don't want a non K CPU... biggrin.gif, and you don't need over 1600 Mhz ram. And 16 Gb is more than enough.
Edited by Viski - 4/26/12 at 8:04am
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Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830, 128 GB Various HDDs Sony NEC Optiarc DVD burner Cooler Master Hyper 212+ (CPU) 
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Accelero Twin Turbo II (GPU) Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit LG E2360 Microsoft SideWinder X6 
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post #8 of 20
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oh this one will not fit in to my pc case frown.gif
post #9 of 20
Good choices, pretty much identical to mine, except as you've already figured out, the R4E is E-ATX so it requires a big case like the HAF-X.

You could always go for the Rampage IV Formula instead, it's regular ATX sized and has a few less features but still a great board.

Also ignore Viski about needing a fully unlocked processor, the 3820 can easily be overclocked, mine is sitting perfectly stable at 4.625GHz, I could probably go higher as well if I wanted but I don't need to.

Also with regards to the difference between the different GTX 680's, most of them you'll see will be reference at the moment, i.e. based on exactly the same design, just with a different company logo on it. Many people would advise you to buy the EVGA GTX 680, they always give great warranties and support.

PM me if you need any more help, I live in the UK aswell so I can recommend some better sites than eBay. tongue.gif
post #10 of 20
Ok, for pure gaming, you just want an i5 processor. That will provide the best performance possible without wasting money. If you do video encoding (for gamers, this is only for those that produce a stream) than the i7 will provide some extra performance. (i7 is just an i5 with hyperthreading, which does not help game performance.)

Your monitor situation is somewhat unique. Your resolution is only 1920x1080, so a single 680 is already massive overkill for most games and will handle any game well. But because 32" is pretty darn big for that resolution in terms of computer use, you'll probably want to use a medium to high amount of AA. This means sticking with Nvidia is a good choice, as it handles AA better than AMD. It also means you can't really spend more for more performance beyond a 680 - you only have so many pixels to push.

Recommended parts (selected from scan.co.uk since I don't know the UK market that well, you can compare prices at other retailers like Amazon UK, other UK retailers, or importing from a site like hardwareversand.de at your leisure):

GPU: 680. 444 pounds. The PNY 680 is a tad cheaper, but EVGA has the best warranties and tech support in the business. If you want to pay more for a custom cooler (not a big deal) you can get an MSI twin frozr version.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-evga-gtx-680-28nm-pci-e-30-6008mhz-gddr5-gpu-1006mhz-1536-cores-dl-dvi-dp-hdmi

CPU: i5-2500k or i5-3570K. 161 pounds. The 3570K is the new line of processors which update the old i5s. They are a tad (~5%) better and will be near the same price so probably worth waiting for (should be available in a matter of days).
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-2500k-unlocked-s1155-sandy-bridge-quad-33ghz-hd3000-igp-850mhz-6mb-cache-95w-retail
i7-2600K or i7-3770K only if you plan to stream or are a 3d artist. A non-K processor may be a tad cheaper if you don't intend to overclock. I don't recommend them, however, as you may as well keep the option of more performance open.

Mobo: MSI z77 g43. 77 pounds.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-z77a-g43-intel-z77-s-1155-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-30-(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-atx
If you want to pay 20 pounds more for the option to add a second video card in the future (not recommended unless you also spend a considerable amount on a higher monitor resolution/multi monitor gaming):
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-z77a-g45-intel-z77-s-1155-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-30-(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-atx

RAM: 2x4gb 1600 mhz: 40 pounds.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-lp-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-15v

CPU Cooler (if you intend to overclock): Hr-02 Macho. 40 pounds.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/thermalright-hr-02-macho-cpu-cooler-with-140mm-silent-fan-for-775-1155-1156-1366-amd-am2-am3
This is a high-quality, quiet CPU cooler that's relatively cheap in europe. The easy choice.

All prices rounded up to nearest pound & include VAT. Not sure on shipping. Total (including the HR-02 Macho): 762 pounds.

This is considerably less than your 1200 pound max budget, but to be honest you can't get better for gaming without spending more on monitors. The CPU & GPU above will be overkill for pretty much every game at 1920x1080 resolution. Other people will recommend more expensive motherboards, water coolers, or the like, but they're useless for gaming, only for pushing overclocks super high for fun. If you want to spend more than the above for gaming or casual use purposes, you're going to have to look at multi-monitor gaming or 2560x1440 and higher resolution monitors.
Edited by MisterFred - 4/25/12 at 1:10pm
    
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