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I have a H100 sitting on a 3930k at stock speeds you hover between 30 and 40 Celsius its not a bad choice cooling wise.
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except the raystorm is one of the worst blocks u can buy for lga 2011 chips since it's one of the more bowed blocks on the market. You want a slighter bow on the base for larger chips since it makes better contact with more surface on the chip. The raystorm is one of the best for 1155 tho. The supreme and kryos are best for 2011 since they have very little bow on the base

And the difference in temps will be minimal. If he really wanted to, he could lap the base of the block. For the price, you cannot beat it.
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except the raystorm is one of the worst blocks u can buy for lga 2011 chips since it's one of the more bowed blocks on the market. You want a slighter bow on the base for larger chips since it makes better contact with more surface on the chip. The raystorm is one of the best for 1155 tho. The supreme and kryos are best for 2011 since they have very little bow on the base

And the difference in temps will be minimal. If he really wanted to, he could lap the base of the block. For the price, you cannot beat it.

it's up to a 2C difference depending on the thermal paste application method. You could put together a much better performing loop for 2011 for less money than that kit. Lapping won't decrease the bow enough to matter. It would just get rid of all of the imperfections on the bottom surface. Block is just bad for 2011, but great for 1155.
 
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I'm running an H100 at 4.5 ghz and 1.328v, loaded temps are from 66-74c, across all cores using 2 GT AP-15s in push configuration. This is with a 25c ambient.

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I would rather wait for Cooler Master Eisberg to come out.

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it's up to a 2C difference depending on the thermal paste application method. You could put together a much better performing loop for 2011 for less money than that kit. Lapping won't decrease the bow enough to matter. It would just get rid of all of the imperfections on the bottom surface. Block is just bad for 2011, but great for 1155.

A 2°C difference isn't nearly enough to shy away from the kit. Lapping also will decrease the bow if you do it properly. The bow in almost all blocks is less than 1mm across the block. Starting with 100 grit sandpaper, simply sand down until you begin to see marks on the entire block (not just the center in convex and no just the edges in concave), then move your way up the grit (100, 200, 500, 800, 1000, 1500, 2000) and you will have a perfectly flat and smooth block. When lapping the block, it's also a good idea to lap the chip as it will make for a much better mating of surfaces.

The lapping will more than likely lower temps ~6°C.

As for a better performing loop for >$300. I'd like to see you try.

The pump/reservoir are top notch, the radiator is great for the price, the fans are equal to gentle typhoon ap-15's, the cpu block is top tier....so in order to really get it better you'd have to get a more expensive radiator and a more expensive block. Together that would maybe knock of 5°C for about an additional $100.

My attempt at beating it for under $300...can't be done. I went with a cheaper but similar performing rad, and a better block that is more expensive.

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lapping ur cpu really makes a ton of sense... good bye intel warranty and intel overclocking warranty. Maybe on cheap 1155 or amd parts, but not 2011. Better off spending $300-500 on a cpu block than $600/1000 on a new cpu. It also voids the warranty on ur blocks. Lapping makes no sense unless you're running cheap stuff and don't care about replacing it. Why not buy the parts that are best for the system without modification?
 
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You're really worried about the warranty on a waterblock? Please, it's done all the time.

And 4.5GHz an H100 would probably do it but custom loop will be much better with at least a good 240.

I have a Raystorm block, it dissapates the heat fine. I'll lap it when I have the time, who cares about the warranty you think a waterblock is going to need warranty service?
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You're really worried about the warranty on a waterblock? Please, it's done all the time.
And 4.5GHz an H100 would probably do it but custom loop will be much better with at least a good 240.
I have a Raystorm block, it dissapates the heat fine. I'll lap it when I have the time, who cares about the warranty you think a waterblock is going to need warranty service?

H100 is good for 4.6 on most 3930k's. You may get unlucky with a really hot chip, but there is no fix for that.
 
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Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion View Post

lapping ur cpu really makes a ton of sense... good bye intel warranty and intel overclocking warranty. Maybe on cheap 1155 or amd parts, but not 2011. Better off spending $300-500 on a cpu block than $600/1000 on a new cpu. It also voids the warranty on ur blocks. Lapping makes no sense unless you're running cheap stuff and don't care about replacing it. Why not buy the parts that are best for the system without modification?

I know you've been here for a little while, but realize what website you're on. "Overclock.net: The pursuit of performance." I lapped a 980X on the day that it came out (aka $1099+$66Tax=$1165). Lapping is actually pretty common for people that actually want to push their systems. Warranties for the CPU and CPU block are alot less important than you make them out to be. CPUs are hard to kill (and I've tried).

Voiding warranties is an everyday occurrence here.

As for "why not buy the parts that are the best for the system without modification," I go back to my original point: You cannot beat the price/performance of the Raystorm Extreme kit. I couldn't build one under the limit and I doubt that you can either. For a CPU only loop, there is really nothing wrong with it. You will get a slightly better cooling block for $30+ more, and the difference will be less than 2°C.

If I was recommending someone to buy a watercooling system, I would tell them something like this.

Pump: MCP655 or MCP355 (Kit comes with MCP655-B)
CPU Block: XSPC Raystorm or Heatkiller 3.0. Raystorm is cheaper and gives almost exact same performance (Kit includes raystorm)
Reservoir: XSPC Dual Bay Res for MCP655(or 355) or a Top for the 655 (or 355) (Kit includes XSPC Dual Res for 655)
Radiator: XSPC EX360 or RX360 - both are top tier rads with great performance with quieter fans. If you don't care about noise, then a BIX 360. (Kit includes RX360)
Fittings: Compression Fittings always (Kit comes with compression fittings)
Tubing: Doesn't really matter as long as the compressions are the same size (Kit allows you to choose color)
Fans: XSPC Xiniruilian 1650rpm or Gentle Typhoon AP-15's ---XSPC fans are roughly dba and same performance but cheaper (Kit includes Xiniruilians)
Biocide: Killcoil or PT Nuke (kit comes with killcoil)


The kit comes with some of the best performing parts that there are but yet you say they're not? What would you legitimately change?
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Gaming PC / HTPC
(17 items)
 
Bedroom PC
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Prime Z270-A GB Auros-X 1080 Ti G-Skill (2x8gb) 3000mhz  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 850 Western Digital 5900rpm Seagate 7200rpm LG 22x DVD Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Noctua NH-D14 Win 10 x64 Pro LG 55" 4k B6 OLED Microsoft Desktop 400 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair TX750 V2 NZXT Source 210 Microsoft Desktop 400 Black 
Audio
Custom Surround 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2120T Biostar H61MH Intel HD 2000 G-Skill F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 128gb Asus 24x DVD Burner Stock Win 10 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 40" 1080p HP Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Silverstone 400W ST40F-ES Silverstone ML03B 
Other
Linksys WMP600N Wireless Card 
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