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Almost any cooler with very quiet fans is very quiet.
The H100 doesn't really perform all that great with silent fans though.

I suggest you read up on focused flow fans then, cus they perform better.
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lachen.gif
I know Intel will get this fixed but c'mon with all the Intel Fanbois dog piling BD this is a bit of Win! An I'ma bask in the glow of sweet Karmic justice. tongue.gif
I don't hate Intel btw. I just find this to be pretty ironic and I live for irony. cheers.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

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Water has the potential to be better than air because it can move more heat. Ivy doesn't put out more heat. Heat =/= temperature.
The biggest point to take away from this.

Edit: btw, IB is gonna be great for cheap ocing. No need for a d14 this time around, a hyper 212+ may perform just about the same.
Edited by thehidecheck - 4/28/12 at 10:12am
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I don't hate Intel btw. I just find this to be pretty ironic and I live for irony. cheers.gif

Ivy's still a step forward. Bulldozer was a side step.
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Sounds like a stretch to me, depends on the silicon lottery. Maybe with an H100.
You'd have a much safer bet with a "big air" cooler like the Noctua, Silver Arrow, or Phanteks (and much quieter too).

those air coolers are quieter than a water cooler?
Those all-in-one coolers don't use water, they use another chemical with much worse thermal properties.

A good custom water set will be far cooler and quieter than anything else conventional, but the big air coolers are themselves much better than the canned liquid coolers.

The real value of canned liquid coolers is only in that they don't use a lot of apace on the mobo, while being cheaper and simpler vs. custom water. If you have the space..
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I suggest you read up on focused flow fans then, cus they perform better.

Better than what? Fans of similar RPM of inferior design, sure. Fans of vastly higher RPM and air flow, no.
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Those all-in-one coolers don't use water, they use another chemical with much worse thermal properties.
A good custom water set will be far cooler and quieter than anything else conventional, but the big air coolers are themselves much better than the canned liquid coolers.
The real value of canned liquid coolers is only in that they don't use a lot of apace on the mobo, while being cheaper and simpler vs. custom water. If you have the space..

They use water mixed with propylene glycol. It's not really what it's filled with, more the pump and the flow rate in it.

I agree on CLCs though, they don't really provide amazing cooling for the money and it's more of an aesthetic choice.
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I don't hate Intel btw. I just find this to be pretty ironic and I live for irony. cheers.gif

Ivy's still a step forward. Bulldozer was a side step.

Maybe so, but Bulldozer owners are able to tweak their CPUs' without having to break out the Marshmallows an Weenies. Which is more Win than IB is capable of atm. lachen.gif
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Those all-in-one coolers don't use water, they use another chemical with much worse thermal properties.
A good custom water set will be far cooler and quieter than anything else conventional, but the big air coolers are themselves much better than the canned liquid coolers.
The real value of canned liquid coolers is only in that they don't use a lot of apace on the mobo, while being cheaper and simpler vs. custom water. If you have the space..

They use water mixed with propylene glycol. It's not really what it's filled with, more the pump and the flow rate in it.

I agree on CLCs though, they don't really provide amazing cooling for the money and it's more of an aesthetic choice.

If you never ran an all in one cooler, you just don't know. Having run the H50 pretty much the whole first year I owned my current build I can say that it gave me slightly better temps than the CM Hyper 212+ I ended up on while I was putting this loop together. Not at idle but at Load. I Fold and my CPU is a 24/7 Folder. While I believe that CM 212+ is an awesome cooler it ran 44c, while my H50 with Push/Pull ran ~42c @ Load. I spent a little less on the H50 new than it would have cost for Megahelms or Noctua DH-14 which are better Coolers IMHO. But now that prices are coming down to a more reasonable level it's convoluted the performance/price margin imho. smile.gif

All in one Coolers have their place too. wink.gif

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How is it an inferior total package? You get the same or similar performance when OCed with much less power consumed. The heat could easily mean little to nothing for 24/7 stable OCs (Sure, you have a part at 85c in your rig..But it's not putting out much heat in watts still.)
There are literally no negatives. Anyone who thinks Intel will fix this because of a few forum posts is delusional, we don't measure into a massive part of their market. I'd say 5% if we were lucky.
You'd probably end up paying a lot more simply because Intel don't need it for their i3s, i5s

Brutuz, we agree again. +1 to you bro. Hit the nail.

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Ivy's still a step forward. Bulldozer was a side step.

Ivy yes. SnoozeDozer was step back. As it couldn't carry the same performance as the previous generation.
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Intel is only a part of the performance/enthusiast hardware industry. While the unlocked chips may not account for much of their own sales, there is a global hardware market depends on them. All these people saying Intel will just do whatever they want and that we should be thankful for what we get is sounding like a tryhard/knowitall in my opinion. Intel should not and will not run this little industry into the ground just to save tenths of a percent on costs.

(AMD will return from the ashes if they do, and they don't need that.)
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