Originally Posted by nubbinator
Originally Posted by Ceadderman
If you never ran an all in one cooler, you just don't know. Having run the H50 pretty much the whole first year I owned my current build I can say that it gave me slightly better temps than the CM Hyper 212+ I ended up on while I was putting this loop together. Not at idle but at Load. I Fold and my CPU is a 24/7 Folder. While I believe that CM 212+ is an awesome cooler it ran 44c, while my H50 with Push/Pull ran ~42c @ Load. I spent a little less on the H50 new than it would have cost for Megahelms or Noctua DH-14 which are better Coolers IMHO. But now that prices are coming down to a more reasonable level it's convoluted the performance/price margin imho.
All in one Coolers have their place too.
I'm not speaking from ignorance. I have a Kuhler 620 because I wanted to see what it was about. It was twice as much as my 212+ and not any better. I wish I had bought a Thermalright True Spirit 140 or HR-02 Macho instead for the same price.
Nothing personal but you kinda are speaking from ignorance. Not total ignorance of course but if you don't have experience with the Hydro Series you really shouldn't take such a hardline stance. Hydro Series coolers have a very good reputation for a reason. People mod them to start preparing for a custom loop. I sold mine after a year because I knew that if I didn't sell it, I would end up spending more money putting my loop together in the long run and I felt that I didn't wish to open the H50 up and have to dispose of the ethylene glycol mix and continue using the stuff once the system was modded. They are seriously great performers and it doesn't take much to make them better performers either.
Now this is not to say Kuhler is a bad setup for you Antec guys lurking in the background, but I wouldn't say that all AIO setups are awesome based on my limited experience and knowledge of Corsair Hydro Series Coolers. I'm sure there are more than a few that lacked the performance that the cost of one should inspire.