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I don't care, if you can get a FX-8120 for $150 do it, in the long run you will benefit.

That's an opinion. thumb.gif
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That's an opinion. thumb.gif
Did OP ask for opinions by making a thread asking for our opinions on what he should get?
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Since you said you don't care about price get an i5 or i7 much better than the 8120/980.

why are you trolling so hard theswe days?....... I dont recall anyone asking anything about intel,... dont worry I've already reported you.... goto the intel boards and flame AMD there... they will love it, as for us, were discussing the subject of this thread, I think you shout get an 8120 because it overclocks way higher.... my 2 cents......

keep trollin' projector lol @ U!
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why are you trolling so hard theswe days?....... I dont recall anyone asking anything about intel,... dont worry I've already reported you.... goto the intel boards and flame AMD there... they will love it, as for us, were discussing the subject of this thread, I think you shout get an 8120 because it overclocks way higher.... my 2 cents......
keep trollin' projector lol @ U!

I think he needs to be undercock'd a tiny bit.
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Did OP ask for opinions by making a thread asking for our opinions on what he should get?

Your answer does not answer his question at all though. He doesn't care if you think in the long run the 8120 will be better. He asked which is better at stock, and there are two answers to that because it depends on what the applications.

Answer to OP: The 980 is going to be better in almost everything unless it's heavily threaded. Even then, since the 980 is faster clock per clock AND clocked 600MHz higher it could go either way. It's highly application dependent though and the CPU should be chosen based on what you do. This is stock mind you, just like the OP originally asked.

The 8120 isn't even a true eight-core (well yes it is by definition but that's besides the point). It has 4 FPU's(same as a normal quad core like the 980) shared with 8 integer cores(2 per FPU), some applications that are heavily threaded don't even benefit from the extra integer cores - these same applications would have benefited if each one had their own single FPU. I know this first hand with the apps I run.

The 8120 having these extra integer cores does in no way make it "future proof". Yeah, there are some games that CAN make use of these extra integer cores(ie; BF3), but to the degree that they actually help is minimal over a normal quad core. It's going to be quite a long time before mainstream games are always utilizing 6+ cores to a degree where they actually effect game play - with that said the 980 isn't getting outdated anytime soon due to 'only' being a quad core.

I'm not saying the 8120 is a bad CPU at all, because it isn't. It'll do things just fine, It just isn't the answer to the OP's question unless he plans on OC'ing and running Photoshop/video editing/etc type of applications. Just don't go choosing the 8120 simply because it has moar cores.
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Your answer does not answer his question at all though. He doesn't care if you think in the long run the 8120 will be better. He asked which is better at stock, and there are two answers to that because it depends on what the applications.
Answer to OP: The 980 is going to be better in almost everything unless it's heavily threaded. Even then, since the 980 is faster clock per clock AND clocked 600MHz higher it could go either way. It's highly application dependent though and the CPU should be chosen based on what you do. This is stock mind you, just like the OP originally asked.
The 8120 isn't even a true eight-core (well yes it is by definition but that's besides the point). It has 4 FPU's(same as a normal quad core like the 980) shared with 8 integer cores(2 per FPU), some applications that are heavily threaded don't even benefit from the extra integer cores - these same applications would have benefited if each one had their own single FPU. I know this first hand with the apps I run.
The 8120 having these extra integer cores does in no way make it "future proof". Yeah, there are some games that CAN make use of these extra integer cores(ie; BF3), but to the degree that they actually help is minimal over a normal quad core. It's going to be quite a long time before mainstream games are always utilizing 6+ cores to a degree where they actually effect game play - with that said the 980 isn't getting outdated anytime soon due to 'only' being a quad core.
I'm not saying the 8120 is a bad CPU at all, because it isn't. It'll do things just fine, It just isn't the answer to the OP's question unless he plans on OC'ing and running Photoshop/video editing/etc type of applications. Just don't go choosing the 8120 simply because it has moar cores.

FX-8120 is the better CPU, lazy developers just won't take advantage of it. BD is more capable at stock, just not with the majority of outdated applications.
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FX-8120 is the better CPU, lazy developers just won't take advantage of it. BD is more capable at stock, just not with the majority of outdated applications.

Ignorance. thumb.gif

BD is slower clock per clock I don't see how that makes it more capable, especially at stock unless it's in very heavily threaded applications but even then the performance will be close. If you are falling for the 'moar cores = moar performance' sort of thing then I think you should do some more research.

I could have 64c 4p system, that doesn't mean I'm gonna be able to run BF3 at 2k FPS or watch youtube videos any faster.
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The 8 core was only beaten by the intel quad core that had hyper threading tongue.gif
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BD is slower clock per clock I don't see how that makes it more capable

Exactly stop telling the op to go for inferior tech, which is much slower than it's past line.

Either go for the much better 980 or man up and go intel.
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Ignorance. thumb.gif
BD is slower clock per clock I don't see how that makes it more capable, especially at stock unless it's in very heavily threaded applications but even then the performance will be close. If you are falling for the 'moar cores = moar performance' sort of thing then I think you should do some more research.
I could have 64c 4p system, that doesn't mean I'm gonna be able to run BF3 at 2k FPS or watch youtube videos any faster.
Stop pulling words out of your ass.
I said future applications with competent developers should take advantage of it therefor its more future proof.
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BD is slower clock per clock I don't see how that makes it more capable
Exactly stop telling the op to go for inferior tech, which is much slower than it's past line.
Either go for the much better 980 or man up and go intel.

Irrelevant to my point.
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