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Stop pulling words out of your ass.
I said future applications with competent developers should take advantage of it therefor its more future proof.
Irrelevant to my point.

I'm not pulling words out of my ass. Everything I said is a FACT and you can go ahead and look it up because it's all over the web. You are just being ignorant.

Future applications? Developers aren't ever going to code specifically for the BD arch. Having 8 integer cores doesn't make it future proof either.
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I'm not pulling words out of my ass. Everything I said is a FACT and you can go ahead and look it up because it's all over the web. You are just being ignorant.
Future applications? Developers aren't ever going to code specifically for the BD arch. Having 8 integer cores doesn't make it future proof either.
That isn't the problem, the problem is lack of multithreading in todays applications.
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That isn't the problem, the problem is lack of multithreading in todays applications.

Lack of multi-threading? Why have an application multi-threaded if it doesn't need to be..? Do you have an application to use as an example?

I mean like why have notepad use 2 cores.. for example.
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Lack of multi-threading? Why have an application multi-threaded if it doesn't need to be..? Do you have an application to use as an example?
I mean like why have notepad use 2 cores.. for example.
Thats a horrible example.
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Thats a horrible example.

It was also a sarcastic example, but I see you cant show me any examples? I asked if you had an application to use as an example.
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Well the best way to answer this would be to compare them side by side like with Anand's bench. Its the 8150 instead but you can still get a good idea and a little more fair idea because theyll both be compared clock for clock essentially. The FX-8150 beats the X4 980 in 22 out of 33 benchmarks. So for "out of the box" performance across all areas, FX is the better processor.

Add to that the FX will overclock much higher, much easier and its better still. The Phenom's are an excellent line but the FX-8100 line is a better performing line.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/362?vs=434
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That application is already multi-threaded and doesn't need to be more multi-threaded to a point where it is utilizing 8 cores to the full extent .. it would be useless just like extra cores for BF3 are. Negligible to minimal gains when past 4 cores.
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Well the best way to answer this would be to compare them side by side like with Anand's bench. Its the 8150 instead but you can still get a good idea and a little more fair idea because theyll both be compared clock for clock essentially. The FX-8150 beats the X4 980 in 22 out of 33 benchmarks. So for "out of the box" performance across all areas, FX is the better processor.
Add to that the FX will overclock much higher, much easier and its better still. The Phenom's are an excellent line but the FX-8100 line is a better performing line.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/362?vs=434


Yup it does, but most are synthetic benches. I mean the OP is going to be doing multi-threaded things then yeah it's a better option, especially if he is OC'ing. Not by a longshot, but it is by a decent amount. If he's going to be gaming then the 980 is going to be better more so than not.

But he asked which performs better at stock, and since they don't have the 8120 on Anandtech we can't compare them there. I assume with a 500MHz lower clock(8120) then 980 would be beating it out in most of those benchmarks since most of them are already very close.
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That application is already multi-threaded and doesn't need to be more multi-threaded to a point where it is utilizing 8 cores to the full extent .. it would be useless just like extra cores for BF3 are. Negligible to minimal gains when past 4 cores.
Yup it does, but most are synthetic benches. I mean the OP is going to be doing multi-threaded things then yeah it's a better option, especially if he is OC'ing. Not by a longshot, but it is by a decent amount. If he's going to be gaming then the 980 is going to be better more so than not.
But he asked which performs better at stock, and since they don't have the 8120 on Anandtech we can't compare them there. I assume with a 500MHz lower clock(8120) then 980 would be beating it out in most of those benchmarks since most of them are already very close.

You obviously havent played ArmA2, its a massive CPU hog and really could use the extra support since everything in the game has some sort of advanced physics, especially when you have tons of AI's. Most of the statics are rely on the CPU instead of the GPU.
Edited by james_rich - 5/3/12 at 5:51pm
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Yup it does, but most are synthetic benches. I mean the OP is going to be doing multi-threaded things then yeah it's a better option, especially if he is OC'ing. Not by a longshot, but it is by a decent amount. If he's going to be gaming then the 980 is going to be better more so than not.
But he asked which performs better at stock, and since they don't have the 8120 on Anandtech we can't compare them there. I assume with a 500MHz lower clock(8120) then 980 would be beating it out in most of those benchmarks since most of them are already very close.

Thats true but I dont think comparing them ONLY at stock, "out of the box" settings is fair. The overclocking potential of the FX puts it ahead of the X4 and by a solid margin. And the fact that you could hit into the 4's with just a multiplier bump alone should count because even guys that dont want to do any overclocking would even do this as its just a couple clicks of the multi and you dont have to mess with anything else. The 980 is just about tapped out "out of the box" where the 8120 is just getting warmed up and has a LOT of potential. So I think the 8120 is the better processor even at stock settings.
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