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While the this is true, the difference in price is small in comparison to the total cost of rigs going in there. If you're spending 4K on hardware and 2K on cooling, $400 more for a real case isn't that much of a problem. For those who are building $1500 rigs, yes it's more of a deal, but are those people buying this case?
     
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my god i can't stand that guy's heavy accent. (No offense to anyone from teh UK)
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Dear lord.
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Technical details:
Material: Steel
Color: black powder coated
Dimensions (L x W x H): 585 x 243 x 760mm
Weight: 22000g

That's 22Kg? Seriously, 50Lbs for just the case?! How much is this gonna cost in shipping?!?!?!

and the mATX is "kinda" nice. but again...
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Technical details:
Material: Steel
Color: black powder coated
Dimensions (L x W x H): 383 x 353 x 223mm
Weight: 9240g

9Kg?!

The hell, I want a computer, not a bullet/bomb proof bunker to put my parts in.
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Fingerprint galore LOL
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Looks like they just took off wheels from a $40 dollar office chair and screwed it in.

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Dear lord.
Quote:
Technical details:
Material: Steel
Color: black powder coated
Dimensions (L x W x H): 585 x 243 x 760mm
Weight: 22000g
That's 22Kg? Seriously, 50Lbs for just the case?! How much is this gonna cost in shipping?!?!?!
and the mATX is "kinda" nice. but again...
Quote:
Technical details:
Material: Steel
Color: black powder coated
Dimensions (L x W x H): 383 x 353 x 223mm
Weight: 9240g
9Kg?!
The hell, I want a computer, not a bullet/bomb proof bunker to put my parts in.

Aint CM Cosmos II ultra-tower 22 kg as well ? The thing is made of 1.5 mm thick steel so its going to be very rigid even if you mount 4x 200 mm on those side-panels and then decide to install your chair on top for making a nice cyber throne for ruling over the less fortunate peons wink.gif The "regular" cases are made of a lot thinner stuff, as low as 0.4 mm I think I have seen. That way you get those 4.5 kg plain ATX towers made of that thin steel.

It's not like these are intended for portability anyway. For portability MountainMods H2go has even an handle option and is made of aluminium.
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Originally Posted by UltraVolta425 View Post

So correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this just a case where you can put your own custom watercooling kits in?
In that case, long live my Cosmos II!
The Cosmos II was extremely underwhelming, IMO. Very restrictive as to what you can fit up top, and putting a rad in the bottom involves removing a bunch of hard drive mounts. This may not be a problem for a lot of people but having another option is always better. Not to mention the extreme use of plastic for the price and how easily it seems to break during shipping... no thank you.
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I give up on this thread.
Case Labs cases are beautiful and their construction is second to none. So, that is how they are priced.
This case is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. You are comparing two cases in entirely different leagues. If you hate the Phobya because you think it's garbage, I understand, but to compare it to a case that is twice as expensive makes absolutely no sense at all. They are not trying to compete with a case of the likes of Case Labs. If they wanted to I'm sure they would make a $600 case with better construction.
Good point, however, the company goes out of their way to make a big deal about how good the case is for water cooling, as though it's a one-of-a-kind product. Truth is, it isn't, and while it IS much cheaper than a CaseLabs, it's still more expensive than quite a few of Lian-Li's cases while having lower build quality than everything they have. I still will not forgive its poor interior design, typically you never have to pay that much for a good layout, the cost almost always reflects the build quality.
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While the this is true, the difference in price is small in comparison to the total cost of rigs going in there. If you're spending 4K on hardware and 2K on cooling, $400 more for a real case isn't that much of a problem. For those who are building $1500 rigs, yes it's more of a deal, but are those people buying this case?
Exactly. I know it's difficult to justify being so anal about something like this to the mainstream, but this IS OCN, we might not be able to afford overkill much of the time but we do prefer it if we can. Hell, if we only ever cared about what's JUST good enough, we'd all completely ignore anything without an NZXT, Antec, or Cooler Master badge. tongue.gif I could go on all day elaborating this but I'd rather not, I think the point's been well enough made. wink.gif
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the case has a good price point but i prefer paying like 700$ for a STH 10 from case lab so much better case and no limitation
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While the this is true, the difference in price is small in comparison to the total cost of rigs going in there. If you're spending 4K on hardware and 2K on cooling, $400 more for a real case isn't that much of a problem. For those who are building $1500 rigs, yes it's more of a deal, but are those people buying this case?

People building rigs for 6K are not looking at this case, get a grip. 2K for cooling? What are you buying gold lined tubing and solid gold blocks? I've got 2 loops in my system with a 240 radiator for each, water cooling both my GPUs, my CPU, my VRMs and my north bridge and I might have spent $600 total.
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Dear lord.
Quote:
Technical details:
Material: Steel
Color: black powder coated
Dimensions (L x W x H): 585 x 243 x 760mm
Weight: 22000g
That's 22Kg? Seriously, 50Lbs for just the case?! How much is this gonna cost in shipping?!?!?!
and the mATX is "kinda" nice. but again...
Quote:
Technical details:
Material: Steel
Color: black powder coated
Dimensions (L x W x H): 383 x 353 x 223mm
Weight: 9240g
9Kg?!
The hell, I want a computer, not a bullet/bomb proof bunker to put my parts in.

Mine cost $40 to ship UPS ground from Florida to Maine... sucks but this thing is solid. I don't want bending, flimsy aluminum holding my radiators. Nor do I want plastic face plates or tops. I'm done with those cases.
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The Cosmos II was extremely underwhelming, IMO. Very restrictive as to what you can fit up top, and putting a rad in the bottom involves removing a bunch of hard drive mounts. This may not be a problem for a lot of people but having another option is always better. Not to mention the extreme use of plastic for the price and how easily it seems to break during shipping... no thank you.
Good point, however, the company goes out of their way to make a big deal about how good the case is for water cooling, as though it's a one-of-a-kind product. Truth is, it isn't, and while it IS much cheaper than a CaseLabs, it's still more expensive than quite a few of Lian-Li's cases while having lower build quality than everything they have. I still will not forgive its poor interior design, typically you never have to pay that much for a good layout, the cost almost always reflects the build quality.
Exactly. I know it's difficult to justify being so anal about something like this to the mainstream, but this IS OCN, we might not be able to afford overkill much of the time but we do prefer it if we can. Hell, if we only ever cared about what's JUST good enough, we'd all completely ignore anything without an NZXT, Antec, or Cooler Master badge. tongue.gif I could go on all day elaborating this but I'd rather not, I think the point's been well enough made. wink.gif

Find me a Lian Li case that can, without modification, fit 3 radiators or more with ease. Then find one at this price point. Then find one that has more than three 5 1/4" bays. I really wanted the Lian Li Tyr a while ago but this case dwarfs it and doesn't need to be all chopped up to do what I want with it.

Yes this is OCN but how many members are on this whole forum, in total? Now figure how many of us actually own a Case Labs. I bet it's far less than 1% of our member base.

There's no need to act all elitist here. You like what you do and that's fine but no one looking at this case to buy it will be thinking... Jeez, maybe I will just spend another $400 and get this other case instead. No, they are saying, "hey this is at the top of the range I am willing to spend on a case and it fits a TON of water cooling options without modification. Maybe I'll get this instead of the Corsair 800D or Mountain Mods Pinnacle."
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One other advantage of this case over a CaseLabs case, which you guys in the US don't have to worry about admittedly, is the availability. I can find one of these at a retailer here, good luck getting a CaseLabs.

I was once considering a CL case for a monster quad SLI rig but by the time I spent $700 on the case plus the almost $400 for shipping I could have bought this case 3 times over. Not to mention, If I just paid $1100 for a case and waited for the best part of 4-6 weeks and it rocked up with dents and scratches I would just about murder somebody.

So this case does have its advantages over a CL case. Especially when only a small percentage of people (<0.5%) would actually spend $800 on a case, to the rest of us, a $300-$400 case that fits all the gear we need is more than fine. Why pay another $300 for epeen? Because if you ask me, that is essentially what CL cases are. For people who can just say "Oh look, I have a Case Labs, my case is soooooo much better than you inferior people! All bow down to me!"

Sure, the CL case makes sense if you are spending several thousands on an epeen rig, but if you are just running some pretty "standard" hardware such as 2600k, 1 or 2 GTX680/HD7970 then it makes absolutely no sense to get a CL case. They only make sense for people running tri/quad SLI/CFX setups.......or people who like to gloat that they have a bigger wallet than the rest of us.

I admit, this case isn't exactly a looker, but at the end of the day it has more than enough room for experienced water coolers running some pretty high-end gear. It might not have the brand power or epeen factor of a CL case, but hey, it ultimately functions perfectly fine for what is required of it.
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i5 2500k MSI Z77A-GD65 Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ OC G.Skill Ripjaw X 2133MHz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
OCZ Vertex 2 Antec Kuhler 620 Windows 10 Silverstone ST1200 
Case
Corsair 200R 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k MSI Z77A-GD65 Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ OC G.Skill Ripjaw X 2133MHz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
OCZ Vertex 2 Antec Kuhler 620 Windows 10 Silverstone ST1200 
Case
Corsair 200R 
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