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Hello fellow OCN members. Intermediate linux user here.Used Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, and Gentoo in the past. A few weeks ago I moved on to Arch Linux. Still trying to find that perfect match,
So, I successfully installed Arch Linux with all the KDE features. I like the responsiveness and overall feel but the complete KDE package I felt that the plasma desktop was too bloated and lacked functionality to get some of my multimedia to work.

Some of the compatibility issues:
  • Got the nvidia drivers and multi monitor support to work, but I can not drag windows from one monitor to the other.
  • I could not find any compatible drivers for my Auzentech Prelude sound card. This will probably be an issue on any distro I am guessing...but I'd believe their should be some very basic compatibility drivers out there somewhere.. Got like only halfway installed with OSS and ALSA. Pretty sure the OSS drivers didn't support it. And the ASLA drivers were conflicting with either their own or the OSS or the preloaded drivers at some level.
  • Could not find any compatible drivers for my Razer Imperator mouse. It had some horrible sensor tracking and lag. There's gotta be a way.


And for the features and bloatedness:
  • Don't need Kmail or Konquerer or any of that proprietary KDE software.
  • Don't like the toolbars. Not interested in all the fancy transparencies etc. Looking something more like Fedora's setup.
  • Looking for a simple system setup/control panel. KDE's is too spread out...
  • Want a different window manager. I remember in Fedora (gnome?), I could tab between both with a keystroke fluidly.
  • Less widgets. ****

Maybe you guys might have some recommendations for me? All input is helpful. Thank you!
Edited by d3daiM - 4/25/12 at 11:45pm
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If you install the full KDE suite like they show in the Arch Beginner's Guide - that is your problem. You need to install the basic set of KDE applications, and build from there.
    
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Don't install the entire KDE SC. Only this package will suffice for a base install: kde-meta-kdebase

Or if you are really fussy about what gets installed, you could pick out the packages from the kdebase package group.

If you are looking for a really lightweight setup, then you might want to try one of the standalone window managers like Openbox, Fluxbox, etc.

Arch is as bloated or as lightweight as you make it, so don't go blaming the distro please wink.gif
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Yeah, I guess it was just my selection of packages then. Thanks for your help guys!
I will reinstall with only the kdebase package, instead of the entire KDE SC.
But then there's so many other packages to choose from....I know a few libraries I need...but everything else? What is absolutely essential?
Any tips on package selection?

I'll look into other windows managers also. I could mix and match with other features in the KDE base package right?

Thanks again and REP +
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I just got done messing with arch and KDE. Try to use the meta packages to install your KDE, such as harbinger suggested.
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Quote:
Got the nvidia drivers and multi monitor support to work, but I can not drag windows from one monitor to the other.

What settings did you choose? XINERAMA, Twinview, Separate X Sessions?

And did you set the proper positioning? IE right monitor as right, and not right monitor as left?
post #7 of 34
I think the kde-meta-kdebase package is as minimal as it gets. Just pick gstreamer for the phonon backend and install the rest of the packages as is.

And yeah, you can mix and match apps from various DEs. You might want to read this wiki page for getting a uniform L&F: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_QT_and_GTK_Applications
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Originally Posted by Sarec View Post

I just got done messing with arch and KDE. Try to use the meta packages to install your KDE, such as harbinger suggested.
Sounds good. I'll try that on my format. Did you move on to another distro or have you just finished installing your ****?
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Originally Posted by Shrak View Post

Quote:
Got the nvidia drivers and multi monitor support to work, but I can not drag windows from one monitor to the other.
What settings did you choose? XINERAMA, Twinview, Separate X Sessions?
And did you set the proper positioning? IE right monitor as right, and not right monitor as left?
Twinview and I'm pretty sure I set the positioning? At least, using the nvidia-settings tool and sudo copying the 10-monitor.conf file over.
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Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post

I think the kde-meta-kdebase package is as minimal as it gets. Just pick gstreamer for the phonon backend and install the rest of the packages as is.
And yeah, you can mix and match apps from various DEs. You might want to read this wiki page for getting a uniform L&F: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_QT_and_GTK_Applications
Now the issue is that it is such an overload of choices..LOL. Maybe there's a visual comparison out there?
updated top post with more complaints, thanks guys.
reps all
Edited by d3daiM - 4/25/12 at 11:44pm
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To be frank, there's no point installing KDE at all as you don't like any of the features that separate KDE from the pack (bundled packages, compositing, etc).
You're much better off installing LXDE, XFCE or something like that from what you've described.
post #10 of 34
Reading all the complaints again, I'll have to agree with Plan9, it really sounds like KDE isn't what you want.

Mate ( Gnome 2 Fork for those that don't like Gnome 3 changes )
XFCE ( Really close to Gnome 2 in terms of looks/usage )
LXDE

Would probably be some good ones to try.
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