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Are there anyone recommend Samsung S27A850D OVER Dell Ultrasharp U2711 in my situation?

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Hi guys , i intend to upgrade to a new monitor , and i got a guy sell the S27A850D used for 700$ [3months used] come with all accessories and box + Receipt for guarantee, no dead , or stuck pixel , and he's in my local location .

+So my question : Is it worth it to buy the samsung S27A850D for 700$, Or put more money 840$ to get the brand new Dell Ultrasharp U2711 ?

OR wait for a new model in the near future in this year ? if so , what is that monitor model ?

Please anyone give me some advices .
Edited by batista11b5 - 4/25/12 at 7:38pm
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Go with the Samsung as long as you can see if it has back-light bleeding or not, unless you like whites+light colours to be grainy and sparkly (U2711 due to the excessive matte coating) and like seeing the inaccurate + over saturated and games and movies due to the wide gamut colour space the Dell uses.

The S24A350T uses the same coating as the Samsung (semi-glossy) while the Dell uses the same coating as the 2 to the right.
http://www.overclockers.ru/images/lab/2012/03/20/1/46_kristaleffect_big.jpg
Edited by MenacingTuba - 4/25/12 at 7:44pm
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Go with the Samsung as long as you can see if it has back-light bleeding or not, unless you like whites+light colours to be grainy and sparkly (U2711 due to the excessive matte coating) and like seeing the inaccurate + over saturated and games and movies due to the wide gamut colour space the Dell uses.
The S24A350T uses the same coating as the Samsung (semi-glossy) while the Dell uses the same coating as the 2 to the right.
http://www.overclockers.ru/images/lab/2012/03/20/1/46_kristaleffect_big.jpg

i have seen that the Dell support 10 bit color up to a billion color while the Samsung only 8 bit color 16.7 million color .
+so Does the 10 bit color of Dell far superior than the Samsung ?
Because there are not much review about the SS s27a850d, so i'm so worried to get the SS monitor
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The Dell is 8 bit+FRC. Wide Gamut displays are advertised to be 10 bit and support 1 billion colours while sRGB are advertised to support 16.7m and be 8 bit or 6 bit+FRC. Wide gamut displays are unnecessary except for pro's who own calibration devices and use colour managed software and need the extended colour space for work.

Wide Gamut displays are inferior to those who care about colour accuracy and do not own a high end colorimeter+display because wide gamut's render inaccurate + over saturated colours (red skin tones, neon greens, ect) for media which is sRGB. Also the Samsung will display much, much nicer whites+light colours and text due to the lack of an excessive matte coating which the Dell and all other 1440-1600p matte IPS panels use.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 4/25/12 at 10:38pm
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The Dell is 8 bit+FRC. Wide Gamut displays are advertised to be 10 bit and support 1 billion colours while sRGB are advertised to support 16.7m and be 8 bit or 6 bit+FRC. Wide gamut displays are unnecessary except for pro's who own calibration devices and use colour managed software and need the extended colour space for work.
Wide Gamut displays are inferior to those who care about colour accuracy and do not own a high end colorimeter+display because wide gamut's render inaccurate + over saturated colours (red skin tones, neon greens, ect) for media which is sRGB. Also the Samsung will display much, much nicer whites+light colours and text due to the lack of an excessive matte coating which the Dell and all other 1440-1600p matte IPS panels use.

thank you so much for your advices and explanation . But i still have one more question still confusing :
+ Does the Back Light bleeding affect to the Image and decrease the Image quality ,image color ?

Thanks
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Back-light bleeding negatively affects the picture quality, especially in dark scenes. Any display can come with light bleeding though, even multi-thousand dollar NEC displays.

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Typically with the lights on when using a normal brightness (usually 50%- brightness setting in the monitors menu), back-light bleeding is not that noticeable depending on its severity.

If/when you go to view the Samsung set the brightness to about 20 and turn off the lights.

Here is a picture of my 850D on the far right, this picture is over exposed to show the slight leakage/back-light bleeding in the center of the scree in the dark
crossoverbacklight034.jpg

If I watch a dark movie with the lights off the light leakage noticeable, but it looks more like this (this image is slightly under exposed but it more realistically shows how the bleeding looks in the dark)
crossoverbacklight026.jpg

It is still noticeable and annoying, but realistically one should never use an IPS or PLS panel in the dark due to IPS glow (google image it) any way.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 4/25/12 at 11:05pm
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Back-light bleeding negatively affects the picture quality, especially in dark scenes. Any display can come with light bleeding though, even multi-thousand dollar NEC displays.
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Typically with the lights on when using a normal brightness (usually 50%- brightness setting in the monitors menu), back-light bleeding is not that noticeable depending on its severity.
If/when you go to view the Samsung set the brightness to about 20 and turn off the lights.
Here is a picture of my 850D on the far right, this picture is over exposed to show the slight leakage/back-light bleeding in the center of the scree in the dark
crossoverbacklight034.jpg
If I watch a dark movie with the lights off the light leakage noticeable, but it looks more like this (this image is slightly under exposed but it more realistically shows how the bleeding looks in the dark)
crossoverbacklight026.jpg
It is still noticeable and annoying, but realistically one should never use an IPS or PLS panel in the dark due to IPS glow (google image it) any way.

oh thank you a lot , so i guess that you are the Author of this Video ^^! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bq6fnNU4T4
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No problem, and yes I made that video thumb.gif
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Do you have tested Samsung S27A850D (PLS) alongside with Crossover 27Q LED-P (IPS)? Who wins?
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The Dell is 8 bit+FRC. Wide Gamut displays are advertised to be 10 bit and support 1 billion colours while sRGB are advertised to support 16.7m and be 8 bit or 6 bit+FRC. Wide gamut displays are unnecessary except for pro's who own calibration devices and use colour managed software and need the extended colour space for work.
Wide Gamut displays are inferior to those who care about colour accuracy and do not own a high end colorimeter+display because wide gamut's render inaccurate + over saturated colours (red skin tones, neon greens, ect) for media which is sRGB. Also the Samsung will display much, much nicer whites+light colours and text due to the lack of an excessive matte coating which the Dell and all other 1440-1600p matte IPS panels use.

The Dell U2711 has an sRGB mode. And IPS glow is not a problem on monitors with a polarizer (like the Dell).
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