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In reality why would a person need a quad core? For example in PC the CPU is not there to use the computer but as complete tasks and calculations. I feel like we have fallen victim to pointless smartphone upgrades.
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Really games? Theoretically yes but come one u don't buy a quad core phone for games that don't exist. Also as far as video decoding my gnex can do 720p no.lag software decoding which is really the only thing that's demanding. Emulations are not really hardware limited but soft. Had Atrix and the idea of using it a laptop was a bit stupid because of the price for the dock you could buy a real faster laptops that does.much more then Linux

That is WAAAY too much well-thought out reasoning ZealotKi11er. Obviously, more cores is always better. rolleyes.gif
 
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There will be an eventuality that the entire power of the PC is consolidized into mobile devices, thanks to current efforts of hardware modularity and desktop operating systems running in tandem. Sure, the Atrix and the Transformer Prime are still far from full-fledged laptops, but they represent a stepping stone towards that future of mobile computing. And in order to do that, significant hardware power is needed; whether it be in the form of more cores or massive CPU architecture changes, whatever pushes the envelope is highly welcomed. smile.gif
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I'm totally ready for this phone.

Two extra cores will definitely help my cause because of the following: biggrin.gif

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Are any of the tools actually ready for ARM architecture(or even just a specific subset)? I can't imagine it will be that great for a while considering how so far most software came out showing that 1 Atom core = about 2 ARM cores. But maybe they have made progress since I saw that comparison.

Quad Core in a phone....what exactly are these people doing with such gimped OSes like Android? It's not a productivity friendly OS yet. Then again I'm someone who probably will never get a "smartphone" until I can actually use a real OS(an actual Linux distro or hell even windows) on it. I mean it's a phone and so far no one seems to be making them capable of more than that. The Atrix was a nice concept piece but "the cloud" is not a substitute for a real OS with real programs(not web front ends that don't work without an net connection).
     
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Does anybody talk on these anymore?!?! It's getting to where they'll be as big as netbooks that you'll be carrying around in your pocket for the screen size and battery power required rolleyes.gif

Encoding video?? File management?? Games?? I wonder if you can water-cool it? haha
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They are aiming for everyone to have their own mobile computer, so that they can get rid of desktops. they will start having stations around where you will have flat screen monitors, keyboards and mouses ready to be hooked up via miniusb directly into your phone. There will still be desktops for extreme computing needs though.

Ha, its then into the glasses, then to the contact lenses, Artificial pupil, ~~~~~~ Brain implants, complete mental UI.
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Why don't people understand that in order to optimize software to hardware, the hardware has to exist.nothing is going to be optimized to the quad core if it doesn't exist.
The supply will create its own demand. Once the quad core is available, people will start making software for it.
If you don't want a quad core, don't get one but remember that when the original quad core came out for PC, people said it was pointless for everyday use. Look at where we are now.

This is exactly the point I was trying to make, and you make it plain to everyone in a much better manner.

People back then did not believe in the potential of quad-core processors in the desktop scene, especially when there are no programs yet to take advantage of the hardware. But then again, there's this problem; if the hardware isn't there in the first place, then how would people create software specifically for it? Of course multi-core processors have to be created first before the demand for multithreaded applications will exist. People have been cynical without thinking about the long-term benefits of such CPU technology. Like he said, look at where we are now. The same should happen for mobile devices.

And to people who think that more cores = lower battery life; has it occurred to you that having multiple cores is more power-efficient, generally-speaking, than single-core variants? The workload is spread out and thus each core doesn't have to get strained in performing a task. Tegra 3's 4-PLUS-1 architecture does absolutely that; thanks to its low-power companion core, its battery life is comparable or even better than dual-core tablets competing against it. As for this Exynos 4412, the 32nm process and its per-core clock/power gating should be able to improve power efficiency over its predecessor.

 

 

 

Android phones need multiple cores, because the OS is so young (not even 4 years) and is inefficient and clumsy.

 

 

You keep trying to compare everything to the PC industry...   which runs on Microsoft, not Android...

 

 

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Android phones need multiple cores, because the OS is so young (not even 4 years) and is inefficient and clumsy.


You keep trying to compare everything to the PC industry...   which runs on Microsoft, not Android...


Android was introduced on 2007, which makes it around 5 years already. If Android is so "inefficient", then why do the iPhone 4S and iPad 2/3 have dual-core processors? iOS is already smooth on single-core setups (as is Android on Gingerbread) so it seems Apple also sees the need for multi-core CPUs at this stage.
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Android phones need multiple cores, because the OS is so young (not even 4 years) and is inefficient and clumsy.


You keep trying to compare everything to the PC industry...   which runs on Microsoft, not Android...


Seriously? You really need to be careful how far you generalize. The home user market mostly runs MS. The server market is mostly Linux. The financial market is mostly Linux. Android is just Google's (good or bad depending on your view) use of Linux. So no...the PC industry doesn't run on MS.

As much as I hate to be sounding like an "old guy" I'm still not sure what the point is of these advancements when the OS that will be put on them isn't in need of them as it's still too limited in capabilities.
     
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How are these people complaining about this? This is Breakthrough stuff here. WAKE UP PEOPLE, ITS CALLED INNOVATION!
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Seriously? You really need to be careful how far you generalize. The home user market mostly runs MS. The server market is mostly Linux. The financial market is mostly Linux. Android is just Google's (good or bad depending on your view) use of Linux. So no...the PC industry doesn't run on MS.
As much as I hate to be sounding like an "old guy" I'm still not sure what the point is of these advancements when the OS that will be put on them isn't in need of them as it's still too limited in capabilities.

fair point, make the OS actually use the cores properly.....hell my SII X does alot of things my HTC Hero used to takes 10 minutes to do, in seconds now.
if android can make proper use of 4 cores, iPhone is in serious trouble, because i doubt samsung would ever give apple access to thier quad chips.
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