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I am purely building my new rig for gaming and overclocking. Evidently according to the following link, the 3770k is better in games. What? I always thought less cores with higher freq. was better?


http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/processors/intel-core-i5-3570k-1077183/review/page:2#articleContent
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for gaming? the i5 3570k will be more than sufficient, as hyper threading has been shown to either not benefit games at all or decrease performance.
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Well it looks like the single threaded performance on the 3770k is just a bit better, and that is what is most important to games. If the game is only using 2 cores, the 3770k does it a bit faster because it's individual cores are each a bit faster than a core from the other processors. So yes clock for clock the 3770k is the fastest gaming processor right now, and the fastest stock processor.(besides maybe extreme editions, I dunno about those)

Once you consider overclocking most of the Ivy Bridge models have not been very stable over 4.5 GHZ, and a good chip is still lucky to hit 4.8GHZ. If you consider this next to the fact that pretty much every i5 2500k can hit 4.5GHZ and most are stable at 4.7-5.2 with voltage even on air cooling, then even with more work being done per clock, once you overclock the i5 2500k is typically going to end up faster. These Ivy Bridges even at 4.5 are hitting extreme 90C temperatures, and this is on an open test bench with high end cooling solutions. You would be lucky to get such a high overclock at a safe temperature in a normal PC with Ivy Bridge.
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I know! But that isn't the case with the benchmark I linked.
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Well it looks like the single threaded performance on the 3770k is just a bit better, and that is what is most important to games. If the game is only using 2 cores, the 3770k does it a bit faster because it's individual cores are each a bit faster than a core from the other processors. So yes clock for clock the 3770k is the fastest gaming processor right now, and the fastest stock processor.(besides maybe extreme editions, I dunno about those)
Once you consider overclocking most of the Ivy Bridge models have not been very stable over 4.5 GHZ, and a good chip is still lucky to hit 4.8GHZ. If you consider this next to the fact that pretty much every i5 2500k can hit 4.5GHZ and most are stable at 4.7-5.2 with voltage even on air cooling, then even with more work being done per clock, once you overclock the i5 2500k is typically going to end up faster. These Ivy Bridges even at 4.5 are hitting extreme 90C temperatures, and this is on an open test bench with high end cooling solutions. You would be lucky to get such a high overclock at a safe temperature in a normal PC with Ivy Bridge.

I disagree with most of what you said....(no offense).

1. How do you know most ivy's are unstable at 4.5 many that i have seen/read have been doing 4.5 quite easily.

2. Very few 2500k's can hit 5.0 24/7 + a 4.5 ivy will match a 4.7 sandy.

3. While this new "heat" issue is quite alarming, the TJ max of ivy is higher than sb so its acceptable.

4. 4.5 at 90c is something i have to see.
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I disagree with most of what you said....(no offense).
1. How do you know most ivy's are unstable at 4.5 many that i have seen/read have been doing 4.5 quite easily.
2. Very few 2500k's can hit 5.0 24/7 + a 4.5 ivy will match a 4.7 sandy.
3. While this new "heat" issue is quite alarming, the TJ max of ivy is higher than sb so its acceptable.
4. 4.5 at 90c is something i have to see.

1. reviews have shown 4.5 or 4.6 to be the median, he is correct in this.
2. quite a bit of 2500k's can get to 5.0 with voltage in the safe zone, but not all.
3. I agree sort of.
4. Look at reviews. A lot of them are showing 85-88c temps at 4.5ghz+ with the ivy bridge cpus, most notably the 3770k
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1. reviews have shown 4.5 or 4.6 to be the median, he is correct in this.
2. quite a bit of 2500k's can get to 5.0 with voltage in the safe zone, but not all.
3. I agree sort of.
4. Look at reviews. A lot of them are showing 85-88c temps at 4.5ghz+ with the ivy bridge cpus, most notably the 3770k

1. Many reviews have been hitting more as well being stable. As well as a user on here getting 4.8 quite easily with acceptable temps (providing he may have a golden).
2. yes quite a bit, but still a rarity among many.
3. meh give it a few weeks while everyone grabs one and sees what the temps are like.
4. but you have to remember the tj max is raised a bit to compensate so therefore its kinda a moot point with appropriate cooling (NH-D14 or h80) will cool it enough for 4.5.

If you are in the market i would wait a few weeks and see what everyone's results are.
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I read another review that put my mind at ease showing both the 3770k and the 3750k overclocked and the 3750k. 3750k FTW!
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I am purely building my new rig for gaming and overclocking. Evidently according to the following link, the 3770k is better in games. What? I always thought less cores with higher freq. was better?
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/processors/intel-core-i5-3570k-1077183/review/page:2#articleContent

The per core performance between the 3770 and 3570k should be almost identical. The difference seen in this thread reflects the higher stock frequency of the 3770.

Also, What is a 3750???
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3570k. . . My bad.
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