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Edit: anything lower than 1.250 in bios with LLC set to Ultra high I get errors.
Edited by Rumilsurion - 6/6/12 at 4:56am
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I'm playing around will LLC myself. Currently set to High (50%). I seem to get WHEA 19 errors still, apparently all during idle usage. I think I am going to lower LLC again.

I am starting to think that if you use offset voltage a low LLC is better than a high LLC.
For benching high CPU frequencies at Load a Higher LLC is better for the better voltage control.

Fun chip. smile.gif so many things to tweak.
Is there another way to raise min voltage on Asus boards? Like a direct setting? This would be useful.
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Originally Posted by Aparition View Post

I'm playing around will LLC myself. Currently set to High (50%). I seem to get WHEA 19 errors still, apparently all during idle usage. I think I am going to lower LLC again.
I am starting to think that if you use offset voltage a low LLC is better than a high LLC.
For benching high CPU frequencies at Load a Higher LLC is better for the better voltage control.
Fun chip. smile.gif so many things to tweak.
Is there another way to raise min voltage on Asus boards? Like a direct setting? This would be useful.
You are right, there are problems when using offset Voltage with LLC High and above

I am using manual voltage, with SpeedStep and C1E enabled, LLC High - everything 100% stable
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I'm playing around will LLC myself. Currently set to High (50%). I seem to get WHEA 19 errors still, apparently all during idle usage. I think I am going to lower LLC again.
I am starting to think that if you use offset voltage a low LLC is better than a high LLC.
For benching high CPU frequencies at Load a Higher LLC is better for the better voltage control.
Fun chip. smile.gif so many things to tweak.
Is there another way to raise min voltage on Asus boards? Like a direct setting? This would be useful.
You are right, there are problems when using offset Voltage with LLC High and above

I am using manual voltage, with SpeedStep and C1E enabled, LLC High - everything 100% stable

Makes sense being that LLC is about maintaining a certain voltage and offset is about varying the voltage. They kind of work against each other.
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Makes sense being that LLC is about maintaining a certain voltage and offset is about varying the voltage. They kind of work against each other.

I thought LLC was about making sure you get the voltage you've programmed it for regardless of the level of current that might cause that voltage to droop? And offseting is just a different way of defining what voltage you want.
 
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Originally Posted by 13thmonkey View Post

I thought LLC was about making sure you get the voltage you've programmed it for regardless of the level of current that might cause that voltage to droop? And offseting is just a different way of defining what voltage you want.

That is true, but what I am finding, and others have made posts about using low LLC, is that the min voltage might drop too low because of how LLC works.
You'd have to ask an expert about that though tongue.gif

It could be a BIOS setting that needs to be tweaked by Asus if LLC drops the min voltage too low. Who knows...
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Makes sense being that LLC is about maintaining a certain voltage and offset is about varying the voltage. They kind of work against each other.

I thought LLC was about making sure you get the voltage you've programmed it for regardless of the level of current that might cause that voltage to droop? And offseting is just a different way of defining what voltage you want.

It is adding or subtracting from the default voltage depending on load. It is changing voltage to some degree which is why I would think it would act against LLC in some respects.
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That is true, but what I am finding, and others have made posts about using low LLC, is that the min voltage might drop too low because of how LLC works.
You'd have to ask an expert about that though tongue.gif
It could be a BIOS setting that needs to be tweaked by Asus if LLC drops the min voltage too low. Who knows...
Quote:
Originally Posted by losttsol View Post

It is adding or subtracting from the default voltage depending on load. It is changing voltage to some degree which is why I would think it would act against LLC in some respects.

Its what I've worried about too. To get the actual voltage that I want 1.1ish, I'd have to have either a tiny negative offset and low LLC, hence i'm aiming a little high and falling short, or i'd have to have a big offset and high LLC, i.e. I'm aiming exactly where I want it.

With the second option my idle volts will be too low in my opinion, so i've stuck with the first one.
 
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So I am loving my new setup - P8Z77-V pro with a 3770K.

Got it to boot @5GHz - but it fails prime almost instantly (BSOD), even at 1.52V.

At 4.8Ghz it ran Prime all night with no errors, peaking at 73C. (1.38V)

I have my CPU voltage set to manual btw. LLC : Ultra high, speadstep and turbo disabled.

Annoyingly though, now I am GPU limited - My 560ti only seems to need 4Ghz in almost everything to max out.

Oh - who was it having trouble with the cold boot bug? - try increasing the BCLK to 103MHz. thumb.gif


Oh #2 - and chaulk up another tidbit of useful info, leaving a Bluray movie in my player causes KSOD at every boot. Took me a while to figure that one out.rolleyes.gif
Edited by Wihglah - 6/6/12 at 11:57am
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about 1.192 V @ 4.2 Ghz stable I think i have a excellent chip

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