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First of all this site is in norwegian, but google translates fairly well.

http://www.multicom.no/SystemConfigurator.aspx?q=st:10614580;c:100560;fl:0#2688-10614573-1;2696-3754188-1;2700-10500502-1;2690-10606016-4;2689-4252868-1;2691-10614574-2;2702-1061

This is the laptop i'm planning to buy with the exception that i want 2x 7970m graphics cards.insted of 2x 580m.

I'm just wondering what modifications should i do to optimize my laptop? With the exception of the processor "i'm only having a 3930k for e-pen! " biggrin.gif

Does anyone know what levels of overclocking are safe to do without, adding any extra cooling?

I wan't to buy that laptop for gaming purely, and i want it to last for a few years.

My budget is 6000 - 6200 USD on a gaming laptop.

It has to be from a norwegian site cause we got really nice deals here on the guarantee/service cause of the goverment.

Any suggestions would be appriciated.
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1. I'd go with the i7 3820, unless you need the 6 cores for some reason. That or wait for a comparable Ivy Bridge based model, it should be of similar speed, without all the extra heat.

2. 16GB of ram is probably fine. It is the only option that allows for quad channel, unless you wanna get a lesser option, and upgrade it yourself.

3. get whatever hard drives you think you will need. You can probably estimate how much data you have.
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if your budget is that crazy (seriously, this is the first time I heard of a 6k budget on a laptop), I would really suggest you to split your funds.

Get a laptop that is worth 2.5 - 3k now (which should already be top-tier in everything), get another one for another 3k after 1.5 - 2 years

Your first laptop should satisfy all your needs during that time, and 2nd laptop will be considerably better than the single 5 - 6k laptop (assuming that you can even get one that's worth that much), PLUS now you have 2 laptops for storage, separate tasks, etc etc
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if your budget is that crazy (seriously, this is the first time I heard of a 6k budget on a laptop), I would really suggest you to split your funds.
Get a laptop that is worth 2.5 - 3k now (which should already be top-tier in everything), get another one for another 3k after 1.5 - 2 years
Your first laptop should satisfy all your needs during that time, and 2nd laptop will be considerably better than the single 5 - 6k laptop (assuming that you can even get one that's worth that much), PLUS now you have 2 laptops for storage, separate tasks, etc etc

Spending six grand on a laptop is considerably more forgiving than a desktop... But this guy has the right idea. Splitting your funds would be advised by this point.

First off, the P270WM is not guaranteed to offer support for the 7970M. Secondly, if you've got that kind of budget, just go for an Alienware M18x. No reason not to.
     
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Problem is i live in a ****ty country. Alienwares costs TONS here compared to what you get. I have been in contact with the company that produces these laptops and they will support 2x 7970m graphic cards.

The good part in the country i live in is that, every computer bought here has a 2 - 3 year warranty. If the computer breaks down for the same fault 3 times over a period of 5 years you get your money back. If your computer breaks 4 times for different reasons you also get your money back, up to 5 years after you buy the computer. This is the law in Norway.

When it comes to Alienware this is the specs you get my budget Mx17

Processor: Intel 2860QM
Graphics Card: 2 GB GDDR5 AMD® Radeon™ HD 7970M
Memory: 16 384 MB (2x8 GB) 1600 MHz Dual Channel DDR3
Hard Drive: 256GB SSD + 1TB 5,400rpm SATA

As you can see buying a Alienware in Norway for the same budget doesn't even get you close to max specs even.
Hard Drive only fits 2x drives. No support for raid unless you are going purely on SSD or 2x 5400 rpm disks.
Memory is about the same just that its dual channel instead of quad "no major diffrence really".
Graphics Card is a single gpu. This is quite bad cause i'm guessing that will be the first part that will outdate, while having dual 7970m would keep me safe for a few years hopefully.
The processor. Lets be honest guys and girls, it's such a huge gap between the two processors.

As you can see either i live in a country where dell is trying to rip off the consumer or that dell in general is over priced. I'm having a 6000 budget so that i can get top end parts you see and i don't feel Alienware can offer me that with my budget unfortunately.

A Alienware laptop that is better, would cost about 4500 USD if i buy it from the USA.

If you don't believe me about the price the link to dell norway is www.dell.no
1 USD = 5,74 NoK

As you can see Alienware is not really a option for me where i live if i want top end parts.
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ok then.....i suppose 6k budget isn't enough for 2 high end laptops in your country due to the price mark-ups, so you can't really leave a part of the funds for a laptop in the future. Just keep in mind that top-of-line laptops (or any computer really) lose their value the fastest because you paid a HUGE premium to get those best of the best parts instead of mid-high end stuff.


I could imagine dual 7970m could last a good 3 years on graphic intensive titles on med-high settings, if the CF scales well


And since you already contacted them about the dual 7970s, you just have to wait for a new model to come out?

I don't have much suggestions except getting at least a 120G SSD in the thing if it's gonna be high end? Your choices came out to be 4k USD, and switching from SLI 580s to 7970 CF shouldn't cost more than 1k I would assume, so you can always put the remaining into SSD


also, that laptop in the link there has a GIGANTIC base......you will need a wrist rest for that tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by HarrisLam View Post

ok then.....i suppose 6k budget isn't enough for 2 high end laptops in your country due to the price mark-ups, so you can't really leave a part of the funds for a laptop in the future. Just keep in mind that top-of-line laptops (or any computer really) lose their value the fastest because you paid a HUGE premium to get those best of the best parts instead of mid-high end stuff.
I could imagine dual 7970m could last a good 3 years on graphic intensive titles on med-high settings, if the CF scales well
And since you already contacted them about the dual 7970s, you just have to wait for a new model to come out?
I don't have much suggestions except getting at least a 120G SSD in the thing if it's gonna be high end? Your choices came out to be 4k USD, and switching from SLI 580s to 7970 CF shouldn't cost more than 1k I would assume, so you can always put the remaining into SSD
also, that laptop in the link there has a GIGANTIC base......you will need a wrist rest for that tongue.gif

Switching from dual 580Ms to dual 7970Ms has already been priced as an additional ~$200, not a thousand. Please know what you're talking about before you spout this to others.

Also, I'm pretty sure that dual 7970Ms will be at their limits' end by the end of three years. I'm pretty sure that SLI GTX 285Ms are straining by this point. tongue.gif


Though I have to disagree with you on your comment about the med-high settings area... Judging how a 7970M is almost as fast as a GTX 580, and basing off how most mobile GPUs can be overclocked by a fair margin, you should be capable of pushing the mobile counterpart back up to the 7870's stock levels without much problem. Doing this would ensure that you have two MOBILE GPUs, in CrossfireX, that would be within 5% of SLI GTX 580s!!! eek.gif

Sorry... had a nerdgasm there... redface.gif
     
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