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I have no problem in read a normal size font letter :-D we are not blind :-] so stop increase the font size and bold fonts :-D hey I just want to give you guys a hard time and by the way 5Ghz wireless will make my house all wireless :-D
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LOL, the new 802.11ac Wi-Fi routers will not only provide a wireless network but also cool your home at the same time (Air Conditioning).biggrin.gif I really wonder how the IEEE comes up with the letter designation to put after 802.11 for each new Wi-Fi standard.
This is the 29th 802.11 proposed standard then...
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/5292?cPage=3&all=False&sort=0&page=1&slug=80211ac-gigabit-wifi-primer
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If you're wondering where the 'ac' suffix comes from, the IEEE simply ran out of single letters. Every technical paper released by the IEEE for the 802.11 project is assigned a letter. The vast majority of these papers aren't broad, networking standards which is why you never hear about them. The ones that end up as standards gain popularity but the nomenclature is purely linear use of the alphabet.


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Want speed? Network like a real geek, use fiber cards (provided by my employer). thumb.gif
A guy I use to game with had 10GbE fiber running though his house....

Why did you employer give you $300+ NICs?
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This is useless...
The fastest connection any internet cable&DSL company in my country offers is 100MBps... I mean, what's the point?
If 100MB is the fastest you can get, why spend all that money, research and working hours on a product that can go that much faster?

 

 

 

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And LAN parties, true, totally hadn't thought of that. Thanks for reminding me. smile.gif

 

Not just LAN party, home server and media. Like my 55" LED TV uses wifi to stream video file from my computer. It is quite slow apparently due it is only 54-130Mbps connection.

 
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A guy I use to game with had 10GbE fiber running though his house....
Why did you employer give you $300+ NICs?

I am doing a test environment at my home for our commvault server backup, testing both mini-sas and fiber. Company said take it home and work on it when you have spare time, so I took what I needed to create my own test enviornment biggrin.gif
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I am doing a test environment at my home for our commvault server backup, testing both mini-sas and fiber. Company said take it home and work on it when you have spare time, so I took what I needed to create my own test enviornment biggrin.gif

You fell for their trick of offering pretty hardware to play with.... you're working off the clock for free! tongue.gif
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You fell for their trick of offering pretty hardware to play with.... you're working off the clock for free! tongue.gif

True, but I value the experience with the fiber network and testing enterprise level hardware for free. Also makes me look good come promotion time thumb.gif
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1. I will Never own a Netgear product ever again
2. 5GHz means Sh**ty wall penetration.
3. Due to number 2 the speed of this device is irrelevant for networking in a home environment.
4. Due to number 3, the fact that internet isn't available at that speed becomes relevant.
5. Due to all reasons above this device is worthless, impractical, and a waste of money.

That is all
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1. I will Never own a Netgear product ever again
2. 5GHz means Sh**ty wall penetration.
3. Due to number 2 the speed of this device is irrelevant for networking in a home environment.
4. Due to number 3, the fact that internet isn't available at that speed becomes relevant.
5. Due to all reasons above this device is worthless, impractical, and a waste of money.
That is all

1) Irrelevant due to industry consolidation.
- a) There are less consumer wifi companies now and will probably be less in the future.
- b) They all use the same hardware from a few select companies

2) Beam forming will help compensate for loss of wall penetration. Here are some 2.4GHz vs 5GHz vs Beamforming tests: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/beamforming-wifi-ruckus,2390.html

3) Since #2 is mostly negated, your case is weakened but to add:
- a) 256QAM will allow more simultaneous signals in dense areas.
- b) 802.11n real-world throughput is less than half of theoretical. High-bit rate video can stutter due to not enough bandwidth or packet loss today. This demonstrates the common need for more robust and increase throughput.
- c) Smartphone and tablets will benefit as the number of antennas are limited. As NAND technology improves, these will be more constrainted by single-spartial stream 802.11n (150Mb/s theoretical, 10-20MB/s real-world)

4) Your #4 is irrelevant since HDDs are capable for 100MB/s. Therefore, 1Gbps+ networks is useful in home environments

5) Nope. Worth has been demonstrated. How is it impractical?
Edited by DuckieHo - 4/27/12 at 11:28am
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1) Irrelevant due to industry consolidation.
- a) There are less consumer wifi companies now and will probably be less in the future.
- b) They all use the same hardware from a few select companies
2) Beam forming will help compensate for loss of wall penetration
3) Since #2 is mostly negated, your case is weakened but to add:
- a) 256QAM will allow more simultaneous signals in dense areas.
- b) 802.11n real-world throughput is less than half of theoretical. High-bit rate video can stutter today demonstrating a need for more robust throughput.
4) Your #4 is irrelevant since HDDs are capable for 100MB/s. Therefore, 1Gbps+ networks is useful in home environments
5) Nope. Worth has been demonstrated. How is it impractical?

1a) proof.gif
2) What is beam forming and how will it change the fact waves lose wall penetration power every time you up the frequency.
3) Since I'm not convinced that my number 2 is negated i still stand by it, and to add you said 256QAM WILL allow more simultaneous signals. By using the word "will" does it mean that its not implemented yet?
4) your 4 doesn't make sense. People said the router is pointless due to the fact internet speeds isn't available in the theoretical speeds the router is rated at. I never mentioned that 1Gbps home networks are useless. In fact if you want a fast home network your best bet is power-line.
5) an opinion really. to me this is worthless, but to you it obviously is worth something
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

1) Irrelevant due to industry consolidation.
- a) There are less consumer wifi companies now and will probably be less in the future.
- b) They all use the same hardware from a few select companies
2) Beam forming will help compensate for loss of wall penetration. Here are some 2.4GHz vs 5GHz vs Beamforming tests: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/beamforming-wifi-ruckus,2390.html
3) Since #2 is mostly negated, your case is weakened but to add:
- a) 256QAM will allow more simultaneous signals in dense areas.
- b) 802.11n real-world throughput is less than half of theoretical. High-bit rate video can stutter due to not enough bandwidth or packet loss today. This demonstrates the common need for more robust and increase throughput.
- c) Smartphone and tablets will benefit as the number of antennas are limited. As NAND technology improves, these will be more constrainted by single-spartial stream 802.11n (150Mb/s theoretical, 10-20MB/s real-world)
4) Your #4 is irrelevant since HDDs are capable for 100MB/s. Therefore, 1Gbps+ networks is useful in home environments
5) Nope. Worth has been demonstrated. How is it impractical?

Snap!

Any word of a new encryption for these bad boys yet, or still WPA2?
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