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post #31 of 97
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post

Sounds interesting. Makes me remember a picture I saw in one of the forums where a guy had tubing running into his basement and had a whole slew of car radiators hooked up to it, and I believe it was entirely passive cooled.
So if you do the air return idea, it seems like it would work well in the summer when you have cool air blowing through the vents. But do you think it would still work during winter with hot air blowing? You'll have to keep us posted. Very intriguing.

We run the HVAC fans (set to on) for constant circulation, and additionally have a whole house HEPA and dehumidifier connected to the lines. The radiator would never be without airflow, at least ambient air flow (which is pretty high velocity at that point).

I'm considering not doing the fans, but I would hate to run the wire later!
 
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post #32 of 97
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Here is a picture of the proposed location for the radiator:
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I stuck my head in there, and there is just a ton of airflow. I can't imagine needing to use fans to force air through the radiator, but I'm afraid I don't have a good enough understanding of airflow and resistance of the radiator to be sure.
 
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post #33 of 97
If you leave the HVAC system on all the time, I would skip the fans on the radiator. Most newer air handlers also have adjustments in the unit to adjust the speed of the fan.
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post #34 of 97
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Originally Posted by asg View Post

If you leave the HVAC system on all the time, I would skip the fans on the radiator. Most newer air handlers also have adjustments in the unit to adjust the speed of the fan.

Ok, I'm going fanless. Now, unfortunately my Lamptron FC8 could have been and FC4!
 
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post #35 of 97
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CaseLabs parts details:
The only way to easily capture this detail was a simple screenshot.

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post #36 of 97
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Tubing for Radiator in Air Return

This was a bit more of a pain than I expected, I had to go through the back after I ran into inner-wall cross bracing in the side. Regardless, tubing is run with wiring just in case I need fans. I think it is going to work really well.
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I also happened to get my DVD case painted, nothing too exciting here.
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I ordered a few more items, it seems like every order isn't complete unless I spend a bunch. I think I underestimated my water cooling spend in the OP. I already had several key pieces, I ordered from both Koolance and FrozenCPU, yet my quick look at recent FrozenCPU purchases is about $1500. I'll have to look back on it when I'm done, but I think I have bought everything (same thing I thought last week).

I don't like the front combination of gloss and matte black components, and some of them are uneven depths (just slightly). I might work on the mounts or do something about the gloss vs matte, I'm not sure yet.
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Cheers!
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Flushing/Priming system with Quick Disconnects

Ok, so I have a previously used MO-RA3 that needs flushing. Additionally, I have concerns in general about keeping my loop clean. Since I have 20 feet (total roundtrip) to the radiator alone, cleaning this thing manually on any kind of periodic basis would suck. So, I started searching around and found another post about the lazy way of cleaning the loop. Thank you to West Coast Mods for making the youtube video referenced:


So, I wanted to take it a step further since I have exposed QDCs at several points in my loop.
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I'll add QDC connectors to the referenced components so I should be able to flush (and actually prime) my radiator, and my internal loop separately by hooking up to the various disconnects with flow in both directions through the loop.

Here is the parts list (a bit updated from the referenced post), found at Home Depot:
Code:
1    084691209119    Clear Whole House System        $39.98
1       052309720653    130 GPH Submersible Fountain Pump       $23.86
1       084305355546    5-Gallon Orange Homer Bucket    $2.60
2       048643067431    1/2 in. x 3/4 in. Plastic Barb x Male Adapter   $2.94
1       084691794844    Spun Fiber, Replace Filter 2-Pack       $9.97
1       084305355591    5-Gal. Homer Leakproof Lid      $1.28

I'll have the parts tomorrow, so I'll post some useful pictures later.
Edited by ChestySpankers - 5/6/12 at 8:37pm
 
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I built the flush system today, put it in action with all the QD fittings and radiator that I am reusing from the old build. I'm going to let the white vinegar solution run for a while, then I'll empty and cycle distilled through.

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Since this approach is basically just putting a filter somewhere in the line, and running the pump....why not just add a filter to your normal loop. Wouldn't that do the same thing and not require any effort?

Enjoying the pics Chesty!
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post

Since this approach is basically just putting a filter somewhere in the line, and running the pump....why not just add a filter to your normal loop. Wouldn't that do the same thing and not require any effort?
Enjoying the pics Chesty!

That would make the look too restrictive. I can tell you that it is low flowing through my flush/filter system. I'm a bit surprised I didn't get anything out of the radiator, it has been in use for about 9 months, but I take it as a good thing.
 
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