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True, the surface area is quite large, but do also keep in mind the airflow across the radiator. I didn't think to look up the stock 180mm fan's specs, but that will also play a pretty large role. Honestly, my suggestion of 2x180 was mostly because it's a fairly affordable upgrade, and leaves room to adds more to the loop later in case he ever chooses to go that route. A single 180 should be adequate cooling, but this is OCN, we're all about overkill... tongue.gif

Single 1x180mm is the biggest I can afford as I do not want to destroy my GPU airflow (I do not want them under water) so I only want to use up to 1 fan space. tongue.gif (The right fan).
     
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True, the surface area is quite large, but do also keep in mind the airflow across the radiator. I didn't think to look up the stock 180mm fan's specs, but that will also play a pretty large role. Honestly, my suggestion of 2x180 was mostly because it's a fairly affordable upgrade, and leaves room to adds more to the loop later in case he ever chooses to go that route. A single 180 should be adequate cooling, but this is OCN, we're all about overkill... tongue.gif

If he gets a low-fpi 180mm radiator, most 180mm fans will give him the same cooling, if not slightly better, than a 240 radiator with lower speed fans. It should be around the same performance as the RS240 or RX240 radiators.
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http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Watercooling/CPU-Watercoolers/CPU-Coolers-EK-Water-Blocks/EK-Water-Blocks-EK-Supreme-LTX-Plexi::16390.html

How about that CPU Block, is it decent enough? I can get it used from the clan mate who's selling me the Laing D5 pump for quite cheap, half price of what it costs at the store. I'm buying a bunch of things off him, probably the D5 pump, that cpu block, and some fittings, so everything together will be cheap, he's already selling me D5 pump for 1/3 of what it costs new.

Again, I'm not looking into a hardcore wc loop, just something decent which is a proper upgrade over my Corsair H80, even 5-8ºC would make me VERY happy so that I can mantain 5GHz in summer. thumb.gif

PS: I have no intention of running the cards under water in any near future, I change GPU's at least once a year so I find it a waste of money buying GPU blocks to just use them a few months. So I am just going to run the CPU on water.
     
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I'm a bit skeptical as to ordering that EK LTX Plexi block as I heard it is quite old, I was suggested to go for either of the following two:

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Wasserkuehlung/CPU-Wasserkuehler/CPU-Kuehler-EK-Water-Blocks/EK-Water-Blocks-EK-Supreme-HF-Plexi::13937.html

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Watercooling/CPU-Watercoolers/CPU-Coolers-EK-Water-Blocks/EK-Water-Blocks-EK-Supreme-HF-Acetal::13938.html

I prefer the first for aesthetics, although I heard the 2nd one is better as it uses better material (PLexi easy to break?).

Which one should I go for? The one which costs 34€ on the previous post? Or is it worth it to spend an extra ~20€ for these EK HF ones? If so, which one?
     
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Well, the more expensive ones do perform better, but IMO, the mid-tier waterblocks perform quite admirably and if cost is important there's no real need to spring for something high-end. For 60% more cost, you won't get 60% more performance.
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How many degrees ºC improvement could I expect going from the EK LTX Plexi to the EK HF Plexi for example?

Also, out of the two expensive ones, which one would you grab, the Plexi or the Acetal?
     
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How many degrees ºC improvement could I expect going from the EK LTX Plexi to the EK HF Plexi for example?
Also, out of the two expensive ones, which one would you grab, the Plexi or the Acetal?

I would get the HF. That 2-3c will pay dividends when you hit the cooling wall. Also, the HF has a variety of jet plates you can choose from and with #6 jet plate it is right at the top of the heap, besides the very good flow of the HF. I also would get acetal for the duirability. Plexi can be cracked when over-tightened, which acetal is many orders more resistant.

Too bad you're not in the US, I'm selling a brand new one.
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That will vary, of course, but just looking at Martin's testing, the worst LTX mount is less than 2C above the best HF mount. Not really worth the price jump IMO. You can compare the blocks fully here and here, but most of the decent blocks compare pretty similarly. The LTX has a higher restriction, but with a CPU-only loop, this is a non-issue.

As for acetal or plexi, that's just personal preference really. The mounting system doesn't use the plexi, so it's not an issue of cracking as long as you don't get crazy when torquing down your fittings. I personally prefer acetal, but I've never been big on the clear ANYTHING look, so obviously your opinion may vary.
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2-3c may be small on an individual block, but if you look at the whole picture it adds up. Going push will gain 1c over pull on fans, 2-3c on your choice of cpu block, 1c from this rad over that rad, etc. It adds up to a lot of gains, so you have to choose accordingly. If you don't care enough about the individual gains, don't be surprised when you don't get the results you'd hoped for because you left all those little gains on the table.
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I would get the HF. That 2-3c will pay dividends when you hit the cooling wall. Also, the HF has a variety of jet plates you can choose from and with #6 jet plate it is right at the top of the heap, besides the very good flow of the HF. I also would get acetal for the duirability. Plexi can be cracked when over-tightened, which acetal is many orders more resistant.
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That will vary, of course, but just looking at Martin's testing, the worst LTX mount is less than 2C above the best HF mount. Not really worth the price jump IMO. You can compare the blocks fully here and here, but most of the decent blocks compare pretty similarly. The LTX has a higher restriction, but with a CPU-only loop, this is a non-issue.
As for acetal or plexi, that's just personal preference really. The mounting system doesn't use the plexi, so it's not an issue of cracking as long as you don't get crazy when torquing down your fittings. I personally prefer acetal, but I've never been big on the clear ANYTHING look, so obviously your opinion may vary.
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2-3c may be small on an individual block, but if you look at the whole picture it adds up. Going push will gain 1c over pull on fans, 2-3c on your choice of cpu block, 1c from this rad over that rad, etc. It adds up to a lot of gains, so you have to choose accordingly. If you don't care enough about the individual gains, don't be surprised when you don't get the results you'd hoped for because you left all those little gains on the table.

Well I only plan on keeping it at 5GHz HT OFF (1.42v) and at the moment I'm doing so on a Corsair H80, although full stress temperatures are as high as 77ºC, that's the main reason I wan't to go liquid cooling, because summer temperatures are arriving and I do want to keep it at 5GHz all year long. tongue.gif

Something I forgot to add is that I will only be using push fan (The right bottom intake AP-181 fan), not sure if it is relevant.
     
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