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Most of the games I love are on the source engine. I adore linux but I have a gaming computer so it makes no sense at the moment.

One day though, one day...
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So does anyone expect this to happen this year or next year? And what games will actually be ready?
     
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So does anyone expect this to happen this year or next year? And what games will actually be ready?

Within a year, maybe more, I bet we'll see steam released. I would guess they want it released this year, gives them time to judge how the WII U does. Cause if they want a steam box they need the linux client perfect, so they will need at least a year or two to get that tweaked and have good user response. They could then work on the hardware, as they don't need to worry software, the fans and the dev team will get that shaped up while the hardware teams work on that. They could have a prototype within a year or two, prob soon after the 720 is out. Just wait a bit for hardware to go down in price and then pounce on it, release a new "console" with steam and a custom UI for a media station. Make it equal price to the Xbox and release it with all the steam games and whatever devs have pushed for linux games.

that's how I'd do it.

[edit] I forgot to say, I'm guessing it has taken so long due to how inter twined the source engines are to the client. I'm assuming they want to release both at the same time and since linux is not OSX it has to be re-done again. It should go a bit quicker but I'm assuming they want the anti-cheat perfect on linux, since it's a bit open.
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Valve said that it will be available within a few months. I personaly think that valve is using this to prepare for the steam box. I think that all major game developers wont start making games for steam until the steam box is released. biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif
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Well, if it can push GPU companies to release good drive (I'm looking at you AMD).

I don't know what have the best chance of success, gaming on linux, or gaming through a virtual machine in linux.
    
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Well, if it can push GPU companies to release good drive (I'm looking at you AMD).
I don't know what have the best chance of success, gaming on linux, or gaming through a virtual machine in linux.

1) Virtual Machines won't work well, we will just leave it at that.

2) It won't really make hardware vendors release better stuff, as the hardware will most likely be specific and probably custom made with very hacked "drivers".

It will run closer to a console than a PC, I would almost guarantee that. You might even have to buy specific upgrades if they make it modular. They could too with linux, much easier than they could with the crap that they've been using. Run an embedded linux kernel, give support for one hardware vendor (or vendors) for upgrades. It'll keep overhead down limiting who you can upgrade from, it's how apple has done so well with so little. They compete with MS through fixed hardware.
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1) Virtual Machines won't work well, we will just leave it at that.
2) It won't really make hardware vendors release better stuff, as the hardware will most likely be specific and probably custom made with very hacked "drivers".
It will run closer to a console than a PC, I would almost guarantee that. You might even have to buy specific upgrades if they make it modular. They could too with linux, much easier than they could with the crap that they've been using. Run an embedded linux kernel, give support for one hardware vendor (or vendors) for upgrades. It'll keep overhead down limiting who you can upgrade from, it's how apple has done so well with so little. They compete with MS through fixed hardware.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1205216/guide-create-a-gaming-virtual-machine

Fixed hardware is devil, it don't offer enough choice, competition, and price range.

Gaming developer need to start using opengl...
    
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1205216/guide-create-a-gaming-virtual-machine
Fixed hardware is devil, it don't offer enough choice, competition, and price range.
Gaming developer need to start using opengl...

It's not going to allow anything near a reasonable system, you would need a nice desktop for that. A really nice desktop for that to work on any of the new games. I'm keeping this related to a gaming box and a VM won't work. That's a desktop solution that was designed for linux, I highly doubt they would want to do anything close to that. Of course, you do what MS did and create the whole thing off a hypervisor (VM basically) and you'd have it working.

Fixed hardware isn't evil, it's really the only way to make a small gaming device. People won't pay for a large device, that's too cumbersome and yes people will think like that.

And OGL is used, every platform but MS uses a form of OGL which would easily move to a real OGL platform.
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Valve said that it will be available within a few months. I personaly think that valve is using this to prepare for the steam box. I think that all major game developers wont start making games for steam until the steam box is released. biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif

Valve also said that about episode 3.
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