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Everybody has huge markups sadly
Best bet would be to try getting one through Amazon, but even then, most of the time they don't ship outside NA anyway
The amount of times I've gone to order something from Amazon only to be told "We don't ship to that location" drives me absolutely insane. Especially when you're talking about saving $100-$150 on a GPU alone let alone what you would save on an entire system. I hate Amazon for that, gets my hopes up then just crushes them mad.gif

you can open account at one of the logistics company: for example i use aramex shop and ship
they give you address in us and anything received there they will send it to you
you will have to pay per 0.5KG and if there is customs , for some products it got cheeper for me for some no so i bought them here from local store,
i live in UAE dubai, and the single GTX 580 cost here 200$ more then online,so bought it online, i paid customs + shipping and ended up saving 40$ lol
but for the pc case so heavy and huge it was localy cheeper then doing all that biggrin.gif
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Stop being Nvidia advocat dude, the card is not worth 1000$, they are using 1 PCB less, and you cant say the price is normal! they are saving on costs alot by just using 1 pcb instead of 2, and also 1 fan instead of 2, 1 shraud instead of 2 etc, so no the card is not worth 1000$ it should be max 900>850.
The card is bandwidth limited, 4GB wont make any difference, with 192GB/s at that high of resolutions +1600p

Err, what?

How exactly do you know that the shroud, fan, PCB, etc., that they're using doesn't cost MORE to manufacture than what's in/on the GTX 680? Or the cost to put in an internal SLI/NF chip?

Not to mention, it has an extra power phase per GPU compared to reference GTX 680 models. And if you want to get that technical about it...its total TDP is better than 2x individual 680s, meaning your electric bill is less in the long run.

The $1,000 price point is justified. You're not saving $100-200 from cutting out an extra shroud, fan and PCB, and if that's what you think, you're completely delusional. Again, the fan + shroud seem to be higher quality than the plastic, traditional designs of previous GPUs anyways, so it's not like we can definitively comment on manufacturing costs.
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Err, what?
How exactly do you know that the shroud, fan, PCB, etc., that they're using doesn't cost MORE to manufacture than what's in/on the GTX 680? Or the cost to put in an internal SLI/NF chip?
Not to mention, it has an extra power phase per GPU compared to reference GTX 680 models. And if you want to get that technical about it...its total TDP is better than 2x individual 680s, meaning your electric bill is less in the long run.
The $1,000 price point is justified. You're not saving $100-200 from cutting out an extra shroud, fan and PCB, and if that's what you think, you're completely delusional. Again, the fan + shroud seem to be higher quality than the plastic, traditional designs of previous GPUs anyways, so it's not like we can definitively comment on manufacturing costs.

By that Logic every car should be a Ferrari.
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It doesn't matter what the sticker price is. No one will actually be able to buy one. If they can only produce 50 of them, might as well charge $60k each.
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By that Logic every car should be a Ferrari.

Yup, clearly. Your reading comprehension is superb, not to mention your analogies. rolleyes.gif
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It doesn't matter what the sticker price is. No one will actually be able to buy one. If they can only produce 50 of them, might as well charge $60k each.

Can I have the crystal ball you're using to look into the future please? Or did you assume that they weren't actually holding back the GTX 680 production to both ramp up demand + use the same GK104 chips for the GTX 690s?
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Yup, clearly. Your reading comprehension is superb, not to mention your analogies. rolleyes.gif
Can I have the crystal ball you're using to look into the future please? Or did you assume that they weren't actually holding back the GTX 680 production to both ramp up demand + use the same GK104 chips for the GTX 690s?

You are saying the card is better off $1000 then $750 like GTX590 because of the components. Also the fact thats this has less cooler, less PCB less components in general should cost cheaper to make.
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2 GB of VRAM? nVidia has neutered this card, imo. If they're not targeting the top 3-5%, who are they targeting?
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1000 makes sense to me... it IS 2x 680's... have the previous dual gpu cards been less than 2 individual cards?
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You are saying the card is better off $1000 then $750 like GTX590 because of the components. Also the fact thats this has less cooler, less PCB less components in general should cost cheaper to make.

Nope, easier to mass produce single gpu pcb's. The more you make the cheaper the cost associated. The dual core cards will never come close to the numbers of single GTX680's) largely due to the price alone.

Also, given that there are 2 cores on a single PCB, I would expect the capacitors and chokes are much higher quality to handle the card's TDP than is necessary on a standard GTX680.

The PCB itself is just a piece of plastic as are the shrouds on the 680.
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You are saying the card is better off $1000 then $750 like GTX590 because of the components. Also the fact thats this has less cooler, less PCB less components in general should cost cheaper to make.

Again, reading comprehension.

Less components does not mean that it costs less to produce. For all we know, the new shroud, fan, internal NF chip, extra power phase for each GPU...or whatever, cost more to produce. Quantity =/= quality (the chokes, caps, etc. to handle dual chips on one PCB are going to be higher grade), hence increased cost. Not to mention, selling the 690 for $800-900 would kill 680 sales by a decent enough percentage to not even consider it. You people are making it sound as if Nvidia throwing in an empty plastic shroud, fan and empty PCB would make you go, "Oh okay, now this is REALLY worth $1,000! If you didn't throw those in, it'd only be worth $800-900! Thanks Nvidia!" rolleyes.gif

And the GTX 590 is not a good comparison - I would know, I OWN ONE. Nvidia took a ton of shortcuts with it, which does not allow it to match a pair of OC'd 580s. The components were lower quality, it had much less power phases and the design obviously looks much cheaper than the GTX 690.
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Nope, easier to mass produce single gpu pcb's. The more you make the cheaper the cost associated. The dual core cards will never come close to the numbers of single GTX680's) largely due to the price alone.
Also, given that there are 2 cores on a single PCB, I would expect the capacitors and chokes are much higher quality to handle the card's TDP than is necessary on a standard GTX680.
The PCB itself is just a piece of plastic as are the shrouds on the 680.

He-yo! Someone gets it! thumb.gif
Edited by jcde7ago - 5/1/12 at 8:24am
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2x EK-FC Titan X Pascal Nickel GPU Blocks w/ EK... 2x EK-RAM Monarch X4 Nickel/Acetal CSQ RAM Bloc... Windows 10 Pro, 64-bit 1x Acer Predator X34 @ 3440x1440p 34" IPS + 100... 
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Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum EVGA SuperNova P2 1600W Platinum CaseLabs SMA8 (Gunmetal Exterior/Black Interior... Logitech G502 Proteus Core 
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Logitech G440 Audioengine HD6 w/ S8 Subwoofer Campfire Audio Vega IEMs Schiit Magni 2 Uber Amp 
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Schiit Modi 2 Uber DAC NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller NZXT HUE RGB LED Controller 
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i7 5960X @ 4.6 Ghz (1.32v) ASUS X99-Deluxe 2x Nvidia Titan Xp SLI 32GB Crucial DDR4 2666 (4x8GB) 
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2x Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD (OS) 4x Crucial M4 256GB SSD 14x Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition 4x EK-RAM Monarch Module (Black) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-XTOP w/ Dual D5 Pumps, EK-X3 250 Res, EK-D5 ... 2x Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 480mm Rads (1x top mo... 2x Alphacool NexXxos UT60 240mm Rads (1x front ... PrimoChill Rigid Acrylic tubing (White), Advanc... 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
2x EK-FC Titan X Pascal Nickel GPU Blocks w/ EK... 2x EK-RAM Monarch X4 Nickel/Acetal CSQ RAM Bloc... Windows 10 Pro, 64-bit 1x Acer Predator X34 @ 3440x1440p 34" IPS + 100... 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum EVGA SuperNova P2 1600W Platinum CaseLabs SMA8 (Gunmetal Exterior/Black Interior... Logitech G502 Proteus Core 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Logitech G440 Audioengine HD6 w/ S8 Subwoofer Campfire Audio Vega IEMs Schiit Magni 2 Uber Amp 
AudioOtherOther
Schiit Modi 2 Uber DAC NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller NZXT HUE RGB LED Controller 
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