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Gentlemen - please maintain a level of decency when posting and keep the name calling out of posts. Indirect or directly at one another name calling is not the way to carry ourselves on OCN. Let's keep to the topic at hand. State your opinion and then move on. Naturally others may not feel the same way or share your view and it's ok to respond with a mature reply and at times even better to allow others to express their view and let it go no further.
Let's not have a moderator close this thread if possible.
Thanks. smile.gif
On topic - we'll have to wait and see how this will shake up and how it compares when AMD launches it's response. We're all speculating and arguing over something that can't be proven either way and is unproductive.
From what Anandtech has stated it looks like the 690 will come to 91% to 95% of the performance of two 680's. This by far is much better than the 590 version came to with two 580's.
It's also promising that the over clocking will be at a greater percentage taken the fact that instead of 4 power phases like the vanilla 680's, the 690 will carry a robust 5 power phases per side for 10 total.
The limiting of voltage cap will also ensure there will be no way to over volt these cards and we will not see one fried 690 as a result. When the 590's launched there was originally no feature to keep irresponsible over clockers from going over board and damaging their GPU's as a result of it. We'll have dynamic over clocking / over volting going on behind the scenes for our GPU Boosts.
I'm speculating that - yes - this dual GPU is the best GPU launched from any other previous dual GPU Nvidia has produced. To speculate how it compares to a card that hasn't even had a paper launch is a failed discussion. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that AMD's dual GPU answer will most likely be comparable as so far the 7970 & 680's have been gaming. Nvidia has made a great dual GPU this time around and the nostalgia of the failed 590's launch shouldn't carry over to discussion about this upcoming release on May 3rd. Hard to argue on either side of the fence right now because as consumers we've been given good comparable video cards and now that Nvidia was able to respond with the 680's we've seen AMD's monopoly pricing curbed within 3 weeks of launch. Consumers win with good competition. thumb.gif

You Sir, are right! thumb.gif

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ruined it by putting only 2GB Vram per GPU
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i would get this thing straight out if SLI/Crossfire wasnt such an issue with gaming, with drivers. not as simple as disabling SLI in this case. or can you with this thing? sorry no experience with a dual-gpu card.

still, awesome results.
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Might get 2 of these cards for my i7 3930k to fondle.
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That card looks amazing. Nice to see a change once in a while. smile.gif
 
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Then comes the day when the ATI 7990 retakes the throne.

Is there a reason you're in this thread? Other than irrelavent comments?

Also, http://videocardz.com/ati/radeon-7000/radeon-7990, they won't be beating it if this ends up being true. 850mhz vs 1.02Ghz?
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I didn't see anyone comment on the self water-cooling either. Did you read how this card cools itself? specool.gif
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so let me get this straight?amd would pull out of hard core cpu industry and concentrate on where majore amount of customer are (average middle of the pack user on cpu market)but would go hard core on the gpu end of it?i dont buy it!amd doesnt plan to counter nvidia,they ll use fairy powder(figure of speach)

amd doesnt have the money to beat nvidia!sadly!

you can quote me if i am wrong,but i suspect they wont try to beat nvidia performance.they ll sell less expensive card
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so let me get this straight?amd would pull out of hard core cpu industry and concentrate on where majore amount of customer are (average middle of the pack user on cpu market)but would go hard core on the gpu end of it?i dont buy it!amd doesnt plan to counter nvidia,they ll use fairy powder(figure of speach)
amd doesnt have the money to beat nvidia!sadly!
you can quote me if i am wrong,but i suspect they wont try to beat nvidia performance.they ll sell less expensive card

If AMD tries to fit two 7970's in the 7990, the heat output will be disgusting. Their best bet will be to downclock the 7990 or reduce the core count;both of which options will most likely make their card inferior to the GTX 690 (for performance at least).

It is important to note that scaling with the 79xx series cards is pretty obscene ... so maybe they can work something with that. Modify arc a bit/use better reference cooling designs to make the card run at cooler temps. Then they can afford to raise clocks/shader counts for performance gains. Either way, we don't know anything until the card is released so this is all speculation at best ( and bs at worst.. lol).

I must say though, non-reference designs will have a REALLY hard time beating the sexiness of this GTX 690 design ... their main selling point will probably be that it cools better/is quieter than reference lol.

My only hope - which tou seem to share there - is that AMD plays their 7990 game by selling it at much, much cheaper than the GTX 690; that way they make more sales based on pricing (and probably vram).
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Why are people saying that the 7990 will beat the 690? Last time I checked 680SLI > 7970CFX and the 690 would appear to pretty much be full fledged 2x 680. AMD will also have a tougher time fitting 2 GPUs in an acceptable power envelope.

Im not sure people who pay this kind of money care about acceptable power envelopes tongue.gif
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