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Well according to basically everyone here there is no difference in gpus. I might as well get a 660ti since it is basically the same as a 670, which is the same as a 680. But somehow they all beat the 690 because they decided to give it 2gb vram when freaking gaming notebooks have more. Maybe the 7990 will be good, i dont generally like amd seing their crap cpus but at least they release drivers every 2 weeks. Unlike nvidia, the last damn stable release was 4 months ago?

Well unlike every other idiot on here I know what I'm talking about or keep my mouth closed. Lol. So here, course it doesnt scale well at 1200P (as you know from your own tests) but once you actually strain the cards then you see more of a lead and what they are capable of.

All of them being within a frame of each other at 1600P until Tri SLI comes along and ruins the party.

So honestly, best bang for buck has and always will be GTX 670 SLI and Tri SLI.




AMD. Honestly if I could get over how bad their drivers were I'd be getting a HD 7990 or HD 7970 XFire myself but I can't since my last generations GPUs and the problems I had with them were soo bad. They've released one stable set of drivers since BF3 released and I was having problems at 1080P. Would have hated to have had my surround set-up back then.

The memory interface size and increased VRAM is tempting but the issues that come with AMD just aren't worth it until they sort their stuff out.
    
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Not true.
Not sure why people in this thread seem to think GTX 670 SLI is slower than a GTX 690 but on guru3d their benchmarks at 1600P show a difference of 1 FPS at stock clogs for both and GTX 670 Tri SLI being 20 FPS faster than a GTX 690 (in BF3).
I would expect GTX 670 SLI to perform slightly less than a GTX 690 and overclocked surpass a GTX 690 overclocked.
GTX 690 with enough VRAM would run 1440P surround and with GTX670 Tri SLI being (around 25-35% from what ive seen) faster I'd expect it to comfortably handle it. If my
Motherboard took Tri SLI that's whatbid be running but because it doesn't I'm stuck with GTX 680 4GB SLI as my only option.

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Well unlike every other idiot on here I know what I'm talking about or keep my mouth closed. Lol. So here, course it doesnt scale well at 1200P (as you know from your own tests) but once you actually strain the cards then you see more of a lead and what they are capable of.
All of them being within a frame of each other at 1600P until Tri SLI comes along and ruins the party.
So honestly, best bang for buck has and always will be GTX 670 SLI and Tri SLI.


AMD. Honestly if I could get over how bad their drivers were I'd be getting a HD 7990 or HD 7970 XFire myself but I can't since my last generations GPUs and the problems I had with them were soo bad. They've released one stable set of drivers since BF3 released and I was having problems at 1080P. Would have hated to have had my surround set-up back then.
The memory interface size and increased VRAM is tempting but the issues that come with AMD just aren't worth it until they sort their stuff out.


i never said the 3way SLI gtx670 is slower then a single gtx690, i said the 690 holds its own against them, and even in that benchmark you included you can see it matched them up to 1200p, and only then at 1600p its 15fps slower which proves me right when saying the gtx690 holds its own against 3way SLI 670s.

and if you look the single 670 is so close the single 680
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Well according to basically everyone here there is no difference in gpus. I might as well get a 660ti since it is basically the same as a 670, which is the same as a 680. But somehow they all beat the 690 because they decided to give it 2gb vram when freaking gaming notebooks have more. Maybe the 7990 will be good, i dont generally like amd seing their crap cpus but at least they release drivers every 2 weeks. Unlike nvidia, the last damn stable release was 4 months ago?

AMD is not releasing the HD7990 according to alot of rumors going around on the internet, so you would have to rely on OEMS to make them and so far power color is the only one confirmed making it, and that cards a triple slot monster
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i never said the 3way SLI gtx670 is slower then a single gtx690, i said the 690 holds its own against them, and even in that benchmark you included you can see it matched them up to 1200p, and only then at 1600p its 15fps slower which proves me right when saying the gtx690 holds its own against 3way SLI 670s.
and if you look the single 670 is so close the single 680
AMD is not releasing the HD7990 according to alot of rumors going around on the internet, so you would have to rely on OEMS to make them and so far power color is the only one confirmed making it, and that cards a triple slot monster

Yeah they are all a frame away from each other. So peoples misconception about them is bogus. I'm sure in a surround set-up they would seperate a bit futher but not by much. The GTX 670 is a GTX 680 with one cuda core cluster disabled so it's not slow enough to make a difference to most people. Especially when overclocked, it closes the distance.

You said only slightly faster and 25% faster in a benchmark that doesn't utilize the cards 100% is substantial. Overclocked GTX 690s can't reach past 1200mhz easily but GTX 670s can. So, overclocked and in SLI they will surpass a GTX 690 easily. Thats what I'm trying to get at. I'd sell the cards and buy different cards you'll actually use, are faster and have 4GB of VRAM. Sure they don't look as pretty but under water and actually performing who cares.
    
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I love my 690,then again im gaming on a u2410 at 1920*1200 and i dont plan on going any higher,i tried a u2711 and it was too big for me,at my current resolution the 690 is perfect.
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I love my 690,then again im gaming on a u2410 at 1920*1200 and i dont plan on going any higher,i tried a u2711 and it was too big for me,at my current resolution the 690 is perfect.

wth.gif not sure if serious or trolling... You could have had the same results w/a 670/680 and kept $500 in your wallet.
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Here is an unscientific comparison GTX 690 vs GTX 670 Tri-SLI by Linus Tech Tips on You Tube. Only error he made was when he commented that the GTX 690 costing up to $1200 in comparison to three GTX 670's Tri-SLI. When factually it's very easy to get a GTX 690 for $999.99 as I did. So his dollar per value is off because the GTX 690 is $200 less expensive than a Tri-SLI GTX 670 for $1200.



For 3D Vision gaming or just gaming in 2D @ 120 Hz refresh rate the GTX 690 fits like a glove with great performance and where it shines. In 3D Vision I'm getting 60 FPS+ right where demands for 3D Vision gaming require for best experience. In normal 2D gaming and 120 Hz refresh rate I'm lows of 90 FPS and average 120 FPS+ on the most demanding games with graphic settings turned on and maxed.

However being only 2GB effectively I can see depending on game demand how it might be over whelming and insufficient with multiple monitors. If I was using multiple monitors I would much rather go for 670 or 680 4GB SLI offering for best performance regardless of game. Price performance set aside because why would anyone invest in multiple monitors and cut themselves short on graphic performance in certain games. Just impractical.
     
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wth.gif not sure if serious or trolling... You could have had the same results w/a 670/680 and kept $500 in your wallet.

Very true. I don't even see a point in getting a 690. I mean at 60hz@1200p a 670 would be enough for all games. For 2560x1600/1440 sli 660ti's would give 60fps, save 400 right there. At higher resolutions the 690 would fail because of the vram. Maybe in your case since you have your monitor oc'd to 100hz, but at that point might as well get 670/680 sli 4gb's and have better performance.
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wth.gif not sure if serious or trolling... You could have had the same results w/a 670/680 and kept $500 in your wallet.

Im serious and i wanted a 690,i was one of the first on here to get one and no you dont get the same performance as a 680 especially when you play modded games like skyrim and gta 4 which would bring a single 670/680 to its knees,i also paid £900 for my gtx 690 alot more than what you paid for yours,i actually had 2 at one point but only 1 is needed so i sent one back.

Check out my modded GTA 4 and 2x690's that i had.

690's
DSC00376.jpg

GTA4-A single 670/680 would be crippled with this and a heavily modded skyrim with all the HD mods and texture packs is just as much demanding,also Max payne 3 maxed out will also cripple a single 680 while running at a constant 60fps at all times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMH5jJBarpA&feature=plcp
Edited by V3teran - 8/26/12 at 1:53am
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GTA4 doesn't support sli or crossfire. It ran butter smooth with my former 680 no problem with all the mods. The 480 I have now can't do it though.

My gtx680 was at 1.45Ghz btw when playing gta4.
    
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GTA4 doesn't support sli or crossfire. It ran butter smooth with my former 680 no problem with all the mods. The 480 I have now can't do it though.
My gtx680 was at 1.45Ghz btw when playing gta4.

What mods did you use,i mean im using some very heavy mods and when you max the game out using the mods im using its can cripple your card,i know this from people over at Guru3D,im using HD texture pack,fonias roads,L3VO enb,Car pack etc,take alook at my vid,did your GTA4 look as good as that while running at a constant 60fps?

GTA maxed out is not a problem
GTA maxed Modded will max your card out and if you dont have the vram you will get serious texture popup.
Skyrim is something else,use all the HD texture mods,it maxes my GPU's while using 8x AA so i know a single card would struggle,STEP mod,has loads of mods,check this out if you want to really max your game out with some great features.
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/11

Heres another vid of mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V7yUmBoARQ&feature=plcp
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