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-snip obnoxious childish post-
Please stop, you're killing me here.

Apple does not do anything for Jobs here in the states. All of their manufacturing is done in China by Foxconn and most if not all of their support is in India.... The only people here in the states with Apple jobs are Apple Store Lackeys and managers... The majority of the money making jobs are overseas where they can pay cut rates. How is outsourcing production and support helping jobs in the US?
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half of american households also do not pay taxes.

Half of American households do not pay INCOME taxes. They still pay the other portion and disproportionately i might add, since payroll taxes are capped at $110k.
    
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Apple does not do anything for Jobs here in the states. All of their manufacturing is done in China by Foxconn and most if not all of their support is in India.... The only people here in the states with Apple jobs are Apple Store Lackeys and managers... The majority of the money making jobs are overseas where they can pay cut rates. How is outsourcing production and support helping jobs in the US?
lol because
Edited by dontpwnmebro - 4/29/12 at 9:06pm
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Apple does not do anything for Jobs here in the states. All of their manufacturing is done in China by Foxconn and most if not all of their support is in India.... The only people here in the states with Apple jobs are Apple Store Lackeys and managers... The majority of the money making jobs are overseas where they can pay cut rates. How is outsourcing production and support helping jobs in the US?

Let's see. You have regulations, union, high minimum wages, high taxes, etc. Not to mention that most resources needed for electronics are from China. It sure makes sense to me to do the assembly at China and ship the final product worldwide.
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lol because

Lol because

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Let's see. You have regulations, union, high minimum wages, high taxes, etc. Not to mention that most resources needed for electronics are from China. It sure makes sense to me to do the assembly at China and ship the final product worldwide.

That's all fine and dandy, but I was rebuking the argument that they were actually doing something for American jobs. Its ok they're outsourcing the "crappy" jobs. More power to them. But don't say they are doing anything for American Jobs... it's that simple.

I don't see Tech Support being a "crappy job" it's a great entry level position... that everyone hates. But it can open doors for entry level workers.. instead it's overseas and entry level people have nowhere to go.
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LOL, clearly...given that the US currently has among the world's lowest corporate tax rates and yet we're in such a marvelous economic situation right now rolleyes.gif
The failure of trickle-down economics in benefiting anyone but the corporations themselves has been made fairly obvious in recent years, especially over the last decade. I'm honestly surprised people still buy into this "taxes are bad for the economy" nonsense after all the damage done by trickle-down. Historically, the top tax rate was much higher (in the 1970s and previous).
Please explain how taxing Apple at a rate of 60% (assuming $26 billion in profit, leaving them with a paltry $15,600,000,000) would be bad for the economy. You do realize lower taxes = lower tax revenue and increased deficit, right?

Oh boy.....

Once again you prove you know absolutely nothing.

1. Current tax rates have nothing to do what so ever with our economic condition. The nations banks royal screw up is to blame.

2. lol @ u saying revenue=deficit. Spending creates deficit buddy, not revenue. I'm still loling at this statement.

Posts like this are why I'm starting to understand why political discussion isn't allowed. My goal here is to have a debate and constructive dialogue, your arrogance and ad hominems really aren't necessary.

To answer your points,

1. There is no single thing we can place the blame on, it's a combination of various factors. And sure tax rates have a lot to do with our current situation. Tax cuts by you-know-who combined with increased spending on two wars broadened the deficit tremendously. If taxes had been raised instead of cut, the deficit would not be as severe.

2. Decreased revenue + increased spending = increased deficit. Revenue provides a stream of cash in hand which can be spent without taking out a loan. If internal revenue is too low, money must either be borrowed or more printed, neither of which are good.
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This is a Laffer Curve.

302

It's so simple even armchair economists can understand what it conveys.

Could we also please understand that taxes are not levied on individuals or even groups within an economy? Taxes are always waged on the economy as a whole. This trumped up class warfare surrounding taxes is sickening. You all seem to forget that the government's role is NOT to generate as much revenue as possible by exploiting the labor of its citizens. Citizens should demand a fiscally responsible government; not squabble about tax rates.
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I'm honestly surprised people still buy into this "taxes are bad for the economy" nonsense after all the damage done by trickle-down. Historically, the top tax rate was much higher (in the 1970s and previous). Please explain how taxing Apple at a rate of 60% (assuming $26 billion in profit, leaving them with a paltry $15,600,000,000) would be bad for the economy. You do realize lower taxes = lower tax revenue and increased deficit, right?

Do you understand that the logical evolution of your grand thesis would be a ~100% tax rate? "If I can justify 60% then wouldn't 80% be better?" People swallow logical reasoning like this on a daily basis. That is the very definition of an ineptocracy. California is a living, breathing case study of such a system of governance. In theory, if I make enough money, my tax rate could approach very closely to 100%. (Since I would stop working at 100% tax rate.) After all, there are wiser more educated people who have decreed that I don't need beyond 30% of my year's efforts to exist. How very generous and benevolent! They know how to use my money much better after all. (Giving fake tax cuts to get votes) It is an economic fact that as the tax rate goes up, people take more drastic measures to hide their wealth from the government. I don't have to cite sources because three seconds with a reputable economic theory book would educate you. The rich and wealthy are not economic slaves of society, nor do they deserve some draconian punishment for being successful.

I suppose I'll never understand the logic that people present wherein they pander desperately for more taxation, and at the same time decry the people who frivolously waste it all into oblivion.
Edited by Solarin - 4/29/12 at 10:27pm
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The more profitable entities should be subjected to same tax rates as anyone else in my opinion.

I agree, but the fact is they tend to pay much lower rates, because of how loopholes work.

In many nations, I could be raking in millions of dollars in dividends with my preferred shares, while doing nothing, and legally pay next to nothing in taxes.
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Lowering tax for the middle class is not the same as a flat tax.

I never said it was.
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Higher taxes on the rich via a progressive tax increases government revenue overall,

I never disagreed with this.

However, in reality, the actual, effective, tax rate for the rich and businesses is frequently less than that of the middle class.
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and in turn punishing the poor and middle class as they spend more of their income than richer people. I thought people did Economics 101 here. Not to mention that doing this means the biggest chunk of tax revenue is highly volatile on economic conditions. Not to mention it'll bring in the consumer psychology 'If I spend less, I'll pay less taxes' resulting in a slowdown of the economy.
Simple? Yes
Idiotic? Yes

I completely disagree.

Money needs to be spent, in one way or another, for anything to come of it. Sooner or later it gets spent, on something, by someone, and the government would get its share.

Long term expenditures are no more volatile than incomes, so I fail to see how a universal flat rate sales tax as the only tax would be any more vulnerable to volatile economic conditions than any other tax or combination of taxes.

And yeah, under such a system people spend less they pay less in taxes, but so what? What the hell is the point in accumulating money if you cannot use it? People and businesses aren't just going to sit on their money and do nothing with it forever.
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This is a Laffer Curve.
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It's so simple even armchair economists can understand what it conveys.
Could we also please understand that taxes are not levied on individuals or even groups within an economy? Taxes are always waged on the economy as a whole. This trumped up class warfare surrounding taxes is sickening. You all seem to forget that the government's role is NOT to generate as much revenue as possible by exploiting the labor of its citizens. Citizens should demand a fiscally responsible government; not squabble about tax rates.
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I'm honestly surprised people still buy into this "taxes are bad for the economy" nonsense after all the damage done by trickle-down. Historically, the top tax rate was much higher (in the 1970s and previous). Please explain how taxing Apple at a rate of 60% (assuming $26 billion in profit, leaving them with a paltry $15,600,000,000) would be bad for the economy. You do realize lower taxes = lower tax revenue and increased deficit, right?
Do you understand that the logical evolution of your grand thesis would be a ~100% tax rate? "If I can justify 60% then wouldn't 80% be better?" People swallow logical reasoning like this on a daily basis. That is the very definition of an ineptocracy. California is a living, breathing case study of such a system of governance. In theory, if I make enough money, my tax rate could approach very closely to 100%. (Since I would stop working at 100% tax rate.) After all, there are wiser more educated people who have decreed that I don't need beyond 30% of my year's efforts to exist. How very generous and benevolent! They know how to use my money much better after all. (Giving fake tax cuts to get votes) It is an economic fact that as the tax rate goes up, people take more drastic measures to hide their wealth from the government. I don't have to cite sources because three seconds with a reputable economic theory book would educate you. The rich and wealthy are not economic slaves of society, nor do they deserve some draconian punishment for being successful.
I suppose I'll never understand the logic that people present wherein they pander desperately for more taxation, and at the same time decry the people who frivolously waste it all into oblivion.

Now doesn't that depend on your definition of success? Let's just go through history, consider that all the money that slaves earned for their slave masters, is currently in the hands of the slavemasters' descendants. Not to mention most of the US is stolen land. Now, why shouldn't inheritances be taxed higher? Throwing money at people for no reason other than they had rich parents will make them lazy. Lazy people don't contribute much to the economy. The reality is that such a system leads to feudalism, where you have Lords controlling peasants by charging high rent and paying out low wages. According to you, it's acceptable to make as much money and pay as little taxes as possible. What is the difference between poor people paying high rent (effectively a tax paid to whoever was lucky enough to inherit the apartment complex) and cost of living any different than high taxes? Right now the reality is that the lower and lower-middle class are being effectively taxed to death when you consider the cost of living is roughly equal to their income (disposable income is 0), which is terrible for the economy because consumerism thrives on a large middle class.
 
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Facebook, Unilever, Cisco, K-Mart, Esso, Epson, Vodafone, Electrolux, Reebok, Yahoo, Oracle, Nokia, Etisalat, Sony, Dell, Intel, Nikon, Google, Indesit, Tesco.

But Apple makes for a better headline
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