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Originally Posted by amd955be5670 View Post

But in Spec Ops: The Line, I used 8x SGSSAA, got 60% SLI scaling and only 20fps, did 4x SGSSAA and got only 40fps. Again 60% scaling. Now why is my scaling less? I am definitely not being bottlenecked as the vram usage doesn't exceed 900-925mb (actually when I just started the game it was around 700mb)
I used the matching MSAA number as you said. Cloud it be a flag thingy?
I've never played Spec Ops. But from my quick googling, many SLI users seem to be having problems with poor SLI scaling in this particular game. This poor SLI scaling has nothing to do with SGSSAA.

You might want to try SLI bits = 0x02400005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aljLeY-h7Qg&feature=relmfu
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And if I'm right, there is no way in heavens to have a negative LOD bias in Dx11/10?
Not at the moment. But nVIDIA decided to support negative LOD bias in DX 10/11. (There was a petition going on for this). Future driver will support it. (I don't know when though).
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Not a stupid question at all.
Yes, I think you can use CSAA. But there is no point in using it. Because SGSSAA overrides it.
The key is to use matching samples with SGSSAA.
2xMSAA with 2xSGSSAA and 4xMSAA with 4xSGSSAA and so on.
Applying that to CSAA,
8xCSAA = 4 color + 4 cv samples and 16xCSAA = 4 color + 12 cv samples should be used with 4xSGSSAA.
16xQ (CSAA) = 8 color + 8 cv samples should be used with 8xSGSSAA.

You know I've never mixed CSAA with SGSSAA. Did you have any luck with this?

I mean 4xSGSSAA basically produces perfect image quality on it's own but it still might be interesting. CSAA looks really nice in older games that don't have a lot of transparencies.
    
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Do not use CSAA with SGSSAA as advised by http://naturalviolence.webs.com/sgssaa.htm:
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Please keep in mind that whenever you use SGSSAA you should always match the number of MSAA samples used to the number of SGSSAA samples used. 8xMSAA + 4xSGSSAA will usually have lower quality than 4xMSAA + 4xSGSSAA. This is because SGSSAA gets its sample coordinates from the MSAA samples. So if you have more MSAA samples than SGSSAA samples the SGSSAA samples will not be placed in the ideal locations. Also you cannot have more SGSSAA samples than MSAA samples for the same reason (SGSSAA uses the MSAA sample coordinates). Even though it uses MSAA sample coordinates using additional coverage samples will reduce the effectiveness of SGSSAA by changing the grid pattern so that the MSAA samples are placed closer to the center of the pixel (which is a less ideal location). This is why I advised 4xMSAA + 4xSGSSAA and not 16xCSAA (4xMSAA + 12 extra coverage samples) + 4xSGSSAA.
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I mean 4xSGSSAA basically produces perfect image quality on it's own but it still might be interesting.
Indeed. Heck, at 2560x1600 resolution, quite often, even 2xSGSSAA produces perfect image quality, indistinguishable from 4xSGSSAA depending titles and engines.
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How do I find the driver bits for Max Payne 2?
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How do I find the driver bits for Max Payne 2?

I actually just recently played Max Payne 2 and I could not find them for the life of me. They do most likely exist but you'd have to scour the internet.

Will say though that 8XMSAA on it's own looks real nice in the game. Not much shader aliasing since it's a little bit older. You might even be able to force regular old 4xSSAA.
    
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Wow that makes things look amazing. I am going to be ditching my 6950 here soon and going with a GTX 670.

 
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do the NVIDIA provided driver bits for Team Fortress 2 work? or do i have to go find new ones?
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I am struggling to find the proper aa flag for Skyrim. Anyone has some info ?
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I am struggling to find the proper aa flag for Skyrim. Anyone has some info ?
It's been a long time I played Skyrim. But does "0x000000C1" not work for you ??
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