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Hello,

I am new to building your own computer. I built my first computer back in 2010 after college and managed to do so successfully, although I bent the pins on my CPU it still worked! Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on how my computer will fair with the new generation of games coming out (D3, GW2 etc...) and if I may need to upgrade. I am mainly concerned with playing D3 on highest settings with good frame rates. If i need to upgrade, which components would you suggest I upgrade? or alternatively, which components would you suggest I overclock? (I would have to research this because I do not know how) Any input would be appreciated. Thank you!

Matt
post #2 of 16
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My computer setup is in my profile, let me copy and paste it for easy access

edit: I am not sure how to copy and paste my computer, but here is a link: http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/4226008
post #3 of 16
Looks like you are on socket AM3 so you could easily throw in a beefier CPU. Personally I would change the GPU first as that will give you a big boost in gaming performance without doing anything too drastic. GTX 580s are going to be even cheaper still once the 670s launch.
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Beef up CPU not needed... graphics yes, mebbe 8GB rAM instead of 4, its cheap now-a-days...
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What sort of heatsink do you have on the CPU - the stock one or something else? If it's stock, maybe get a CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ if you want to overclock. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 Good bang/buck heatsink. For overclocking, most people can do about 3.8-4ghz, this will be helpful if you get a faster GPU.

8GB of DDR3 1600 RAM is also a good upgrade (4GB is just too little for gaming and general use IMO). This Samsung RAM is supposed to be good for OCing. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0380720 ; Reviewed here: http://www.overclockers.com/samsung-ddr3-1600-ram

It depends on your budget what graphics I'd go with. A 6870 is the best bang/buck IMO. I don't think you'll need anything more powerful for D3 or GW2, although the 4890 might be decent for them (of course, best option is waiting for D3 to release so you can see benchmarks)..
 
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Id say aftermarket Hsf overclock that cpu to hell lol
upgrade to 8gb of ram
and with that 24 inch monitor the rez your using Id start saving up for @ least a 2gb v ram card games are needing more and more vram these days
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Thank you for all the advice guys.

I will for sure:

1. Going up to 8 gigs of ram (seems really cheap) and
2. Putting on a non-stock heatsink and overclocking.

and considering

3. New Video card if a 4890 proves to be insufficient for the these newest games coming out.

Only thing is that I am hesitant about overclocking my processor as I have never done it before. I will definitely read some tutorials on here first. Thanks again!
post #8 of 16
you have a black edition cpu which is prob one of the easiest to overclock when I was learning I went by this phrase volts kill heat hurts meaning be alot more careful about your volts because if you set them to high thats the fastest way to kill your cpu however running to hot you would usually see a performance hit first (because of the cpu slowing itself down to save itself)
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Most games are not CPU-intensive. Even for the few that are (like SC2, BF3 multiplayer, Shogun 2: Total War), your CPU should be ok in most scenarios. Honestly, for gaming everything looks fine except video card. Your current card will play D3 on reasonable settings fine, but won't manage smooth gameplay on maximum settings.

Here's the price points I'd consider:
6850 @ $120 AMIR
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63985&vpn=HD685XZCFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1058
Enough to max the D3 beta, and probably the full game (like most Blizzard games, D3 does not require a hot-shot GPU), not sure about GW2 (is that even out yet?). Can run the most GPU-intensive games on medium graphics, so you're not going to be stuck at lowest regardless of game.

6870 @ $160 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521
Should max or near-max not medium GPU-intensive games (like the ones you mentioned in the OP) and still run the most GPU-intensive games well.
This particular version is from XFX and has a double-fan cooling system that is reviewed to be quieter than most other 6870s.

560Ti 448 @ $220 AMIR
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65860&vpn=012%2DP3%2D2066%2DKR&manufacture=eVGA
Will max most games. Even the most resource intensive games will run at near-max quality without AA.
This particular version is from EVGA, with a good warranty and the best support in the business.

7850 @ ~$260
Trades blows with the 570 at about the same price point, but likely better OC potential & less power draw

7870 @ ~$360
Should run any game at maximum settings. The hardest GPU-intensive games to run might require turning off AA.

It it were me, with your monitor, I'd probably get a 6870 or the EVGA 560TI 448. Depends on how much you like money, I guess. All of the specials I linked rely on rebates, so checkout price would be higher.
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Originally Posted by MisterFred View Post

Most games are not CPU-intensive. Even for the few that are (like SC2, BF3 multiplayer, Shogun 2: Total War), your CPU should be ok in most scenarios. Honestly, for gaming everything looks fine except video card. Your current card will play D3 on reasonable settings fine, but won't manage smooth gameplay on maximum settings.
Here's the price points I'd consider:
6850 @ $120 AMIR
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63985&vpn=HD685XZCFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1058
Enough to max the D3 beta, and probably the full game (like most Blizzard games, D3 does not require a hot-shot GPU), not sure about GW2 (is that even out yet?). Can run the most GPU-intensive games on medium graphics, so you're not going to be stuck at lowest regardless of game.
6870 @ $160 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521
Should max or near-max not medium GPU-intensive games (like the ones you mentioned in the OP) and still run the most GPU-intensive games well.
This particular version is from XFX and has a double-fan cooling system that is reviewed to be quieter than most other 6870s.
560Ti 448 @ $220 AMIR
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65860&vpn=012%2DP3%2D2066%2DKR&manufacture=eVGA
Will max most games. Even the most resource intensive games will run at near-max quality without AA.
This particular version is from EVGA, with a good warranty and the best support in the business.
7850 @ ~$260
Trades blows with the 570 at about the same price point, but likely better OC potential & less power draw
7870 @ ~$360
Should run any game at maximum settings. The hardest GPU-intensive games to run might require turning off AA.
It it were me, with your monitor, I'd probably get a 6870 or the EVGA 560TI 448. Depends on how much you like money, I guess. All of the specials I linked rely on rebates, so checkout price would be higher.


Hi Fred, thank you for your reply.

I am glad to see your recommended the 6870. Based on jrbroads recommendation above I actually ordered a 6870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 before your post. I am glad to see that I made a wise decision. I am not big on mail in rebates however so i chose to go with the sapphire. Although it will be louder than the version you suggested, I think anything will be quieter/cooler compared to this hungry beast 4890.

I also added on 4 more gigs of ram for a mere $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193
and a non-stock cooler for another $30: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 - i figure whats the point of having a phenom II 965 BE built for overclocking if I don't try right? Will be a first for me and I look forward to the experience. Just with a quick search, it seems as though the CPU can go from 3.4-3.8 with little jeopardy.

for a total of $230 I think this is a decent deal that will result in a substantial upgrade.

I appreciate everyone who took the time to help!
Edited by glover28 - 4/29/12 at 5:14pm
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