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post #31 of 50
Havnt read all the other posts.
Iv got 2X 6850s and here is my opinion.

2X 6850 is the best value you can get still.
At stock clocks they perform a bit better then a 6970 2GB if your playing with 1 screen only and 1080 or less res.
With a overclock you can get them performing better then a 7970.
Both mine overclocked over 1ghz on stock voltage with antec 620 water coolers.

The only problem with them is they are only 1GB so they will have trouble running 3 screens and you have to drop to 2X AA for the BF3 karkand maps since they chew up the Vram.
The old maps stay above 60fps no problem with 4X AA on ultra and 1080.
Newer games may start requiring more Vram as well which will force you to drop the quality. But then again most new things are console ports which will run on 512mb vram no problem.

The 6970 is more future proof tho, Has 2 GB of ram and you can pick up a second one when you need more power.
post #32 of 50
Get 7850 and overclock it to the max. I've seen oc'd ones beating stock GTX 580. 6950 draws way more power and doesn't overclock that good. 6850 CF is not a good idea, there's problems with microstuttering and the drivers.

This Sapphire card is very quiet and seems to be overclocking well based on user experiences from various forums: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102984

Other choice that has lifetime warranty and is in stock unlike Sapphire: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129230
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So now the question comes involves a new contender, the 7850. I've always aspired to have a third monitor down the road for eyefinity, but I don't know if I can handle the low FPS. For now it's a single monitor, but it's still a battle between the 6850 CF, 6950 and 7850.

I'm not even sure I'm going to introduce the 7850, as I can't seem to obtain it for under $300 shipped.
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So now the question comes involves a new contender, the 7850. I've always aspired to have a third monitor down the road for eyefinity, but I don't know if I can handle the low FPS. For now it's a single monitor, but it's still a battle between the 6850 CF, 6950 and 7850.
I'm not even sure I'm going to introduce the 7850, as I can't seem to obtain it for under $300 shipped.

http://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Products-Express-Graphics-900505/dp/B007KJ1URG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1335755912&sr=8-5
^ That's a visiontek @ amazon with prime shipping available, where are you located so we have a better idea of what's available to you.
Also my offer for $235 on my 6950 will still stand, shipped US48
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As a HD 6850 CF owner, I'm telling you to go with the 6950 2GB. My cards have been nothing but trouble in BF3. Major stuttering issues and lack of VRAM. Crossfire is completely unplayable. Drivers for crossfire also tend to be pretty bad. I play with 1 6850 on lowest settings for flawless gameplay.

I have a 2500k platform incoming, so I will run more tests to see if my Q6600 and 4GB RAM is limiting me in any way. I am confident though that because my cards have only 1GB, they don't fare well.

In any games before Battlefield 3 where 1GB is enough, the HD 6850s will outperform by miles. They usually outperform GTX 580s as well. So if you're looking to future-proof you will need the 2GB VRAM.

Lol man you 4gb of ram are the issue, and a little bit you old cpu... Those card on CF can manage 45-60 fps in high no ultra dje vram limitations, you had issue what makes tou believe other will too?
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Lol man you 4gb of ram are the issue, and a little bit you old cpu... Those card on CF can manage 45-60 fps in high no ultra dje vram limitations, you had issue what makes tou believe other will too?

4gb of RAM is perfectly fine for any game. Also, the problems that SkillzKillz described are fairly common among Crossfire owners. His is not an isolated incident.

There's really no question here. A single-card solution makes the most sense.
 
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post #38 of 50
I say go with either the 6850 CF or get the 7850. Wait on Ncix to restock the 7850 or just CF your rig right now. The thing about the 6950 is that it's being deactivated so if you're looking to CF in the future you'll have to scavenge for a used product, and might just pay a premium due to it being of limited stock.

That said, if you're really sold on the 6950 option, newegg has it in stock for 200 shipped. Not sure what their rates are for Canada though.

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4gb of RAM is perfectly fine for any game. Also, the problems that SkillzKillz described are fairly common among Crossfire owners. His is not an isolated incident.
There's really no question here. A single-card solution makes the most sense.

we are talking about Bf3 right? BF3 needs more than 4gb of ram or you will have spikes here and there
post #40 of 50
6950 2gb. This is coming from someone who has used both 6850CF and a single 6950 2gb. The single 6950 just feels smoother. While the 6850s performed great, micro-stutter was present. Sometimes 25fps on the 6950 felt smoother than 40fps on the 6850CF setup. The best I could describe it as between this scenario is, "smooth laggy" on the 6950, and "jittery" on the 6850CF setup. The 6950 also ran cooler, and much quieter. But this is because I have a Twin Frozr II model for my 6950, versus loud reference 6850s, so it's not truly a fair comparison there. My 6950 also unlocked to a 6970, and I am able to overclock it to 925/1375 (most I can go is around 950/1400 but I prefer stability), which is an overall 15% boost from stock based off an Anandtech review. 2gb of VRAM is proving very valuable to me right now because Skyrim modded is using around 1.9gb at 1080p 4xMSAA/16xAF. BF3 at ultra is using around 1.5-1.6gb. My 6950 is possibly my favorite card I ever owned.

Edit: Just wanted to point out that $275 is pretty steep for a single 6950. You can get them at used at under $200. MSI even has a refurbished Twin Frozr III available for $200.
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