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nevermind, not even worth getting into.
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A vast majority of people will by a laptop based only upon the following:
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All this performance talk is nice but it really can't be linked to the failure/success of Fusion, because those who really care about the intricate details and stats and performance are a small minority of consumers.

The rest just want something cheap and with satisfactory cores, memory and hdd space. I'd wager that a lot of them don't even know what a graphics card is.
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Originally Posted by trumpet-205 View Post

OpenCL my friend. Intel HD4000 does bring OpenCL 1.1 support.
Although not yet available, I am confident that you can find i3 and i5 Ivy laptop that uses HD4000 alone. All core series of Ivy laptop will come with HD4000.

You think HD 4000's OpenCL is as fast as 6620G? It's nowhere close. Intel is good at Cinebench OpenGL and that's the extent of it. For Specviewperf, they're probably at Ion2 levels. http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6520G.55734.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-3000.37948.0.html


And that's exactly my point, there will be Trinity mobile laptops out before i3 and i5 Ivy Bridge laptops are out. And now you're comparing Trinity to HD 4000.
 
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The dude who said 99% of users don't even know what a GPU much less an APU is is totally right btw.
    
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homeless, ur lost if u believe I care what people think of me...  I live my life and havn't stop and many people follow my lead.

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Hey guys, new to the forum.

So, a month later how is this 6620g vs HD 4000 debate still going on?

The whole issue seems rather one-sided.

You're comparing a system that is running @1.5ghz AMD to a 2.4ghz Intel, and from everything i've seen the $100 A8-3500 (even with 1333mhz) ram is still on par with the $400+ i7-3720qm.

As stated in the http://www.anandtech.com/show/5772/mobile-ivy-bridge-and-asus-n56vm-preview/6 from a while back, if the ram would have been 1600mhz the A8-3500 would have been a clear winner. Not to mention you can get a 2.0ghz A8-3550mz for $179.99.

If Ivybridge + 4000hd graphics can't clearly pull a victory from a mid-level A8 3500, and would get smashed by a 3550mx w/ 1600mhz RAM, then how can the argument continue that 4000HD (which is being carried heavily by the Ivybridge) is even comparable to Llano let alone Trinity (whose biggest strides in performance are in the mobile segment).
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The dude who said 99% of users don't even know what a GPU much less an APU is is totally right btw.

While this is true, all the consumer has to understand that for web browsing / playing any type of game/ watching video will all be better on the Trinity and $200 less than an inferior (gpu wise of course) i3 laptop that is sitting right next to it.

In my opinion (not that anyone has ever cared) If AMD wants to let the world know about Trinity then they need to have a booth like Apple does and show off in person what a Trinity system can do compared to a HD 4000. Simply have Battlfield 3 running at 720p with low/med settings on Trinity and have an i5 with HD 4000 chugging along at the same quality settings, then display the prices of the laptop. Do that and almost no one (aside from trolls/fanboys/ and power users) would even consider buying Intel whether they are a gamer or not.
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No one except hardcore gamers are playing BF3 on the PC. That's my issue with this who is it for? Average PC users don't play games on their PCs and PC gamers buy systems with discrete cards. I think the fundamentals of the APUs are the future but I don't see them being relevant for gamers for a long time.

Most regular users would rather have the CPU power I honestly think.
    
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No one except hardcore gamers are playing BF3 on the PC. That's my issue with this who is it for? Average PC users don't play games on their PCs and PC gamers buy systems with discrete cards. I think the fundamentals of the APUs are the future but I don't see them being relevant for gamers for a long time.
Most regular users would rather have the CPU power I honestly think.

Most regular users would rather have the cheap price tag, yet still be able to play BF3.
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Facts:

 

-Most people don't understand heterogeneous computing, thus ignorant of what AMD's APU actually is.

 

-The 6620G has no relevance to this thread

 

-Intel doesn't focus, nor compete with Trinity

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