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Originally Posted by DiNet View Post

Anyone found where actually somebody from Intel said something like that?
Not random person that works at buffet or non-existing imagined Intel employee?

Yeah, I'd like to see another source for this news...
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post #12 of 183
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Originally Posted by IronWill1991 View Post

Some people say under 90C, some people say under 80C, and Sin0822 say under 85-90C.
His thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1247413/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-with-ln2-guide-at-the-end

Uhm, no.

Sin is talking about max core temps. The Intel max Tcase is the max CPU temperature, not the max core temp. There's a significant difference.
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I think conventional cooling needs more work.
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post #14 of 183
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I think conventional cooling needs more work.

That's not really going to help anything.
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post #15 of 183
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Uhm, no.
Sin is talking about max core temps. The Intel max Tcase is the max CPU temperature, not the max core temp. There's a significant difference.

I'm confused, are the cores part of the CPU?
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post #16 of 183
It's not outputting more heat, the heat is simply taking longer to remove from the chip resulting in higher load temps. If it can handle running at those temperatures (and by handle I mean 100% stability) then there's no need for worry.
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This much was obvious. It's getting the extra few degrees off your load temp that say, delidding it (for example) can possibly help with.

I wonder if we'll see some nut try direct die water cooling. I would if I had one, and access to tools to make an acrylic top.
    
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post #18 of 183
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This much was obvious. It's getting the extra few degrees off your load temp that say, delidding it (for example) can possibly help with.
I wonder if we'll see some nut try direct die water cooling. I would if I had one, and access to tools to make an acrylic top.

Thats a very good idea, but i hope that guy knows how to make a good seal.
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post #19 of 183
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Thats a very good idea, but i hope that guy knows how to make a good seal.

He did, the only problem he had was the surface components on the chips. IB doesn't seem to have that issue.
    
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Surprisingly, Intel has admitted that their latest Ivy Bridge platform runs hotter and its because of the increased thermal density which is the result of 22nm manufacturing node. Intel said, “users may observe higher operating temperatures when overclocking”. They further added, “This is as designed and meets quality and reliability expectations for parts operating under specified conditions.”
Means a new stepping will not fix this. We'll have to live with it.
Source: Maximum-Tech
A new stepping can fix it.

While smaller processes increase heat density...... as the process matures, Intel will probably be able to reduce leakage and therefore less waste heat.
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