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Ohh man! a 3 to 7% cpu performance gain with ivybridge, and when overclocked, runs hotter then sandybridge OC! what an awesome cpu they released! Hope haswell has a big TOCK release...
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well, there are several benches that show 10%+ gains with x264 in particular at ~14%...

even this article aimed at developers somehow came up with "37% improvement over sandy bridge"... that one is a head-scratcher
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All this talk of Socket 2011 makes me want it all the more. It's just so damn expensive. biggrin.gif

Do it already! biggrin.gif

Need a better guitar first! tongue.gif
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Ohh man! a 3 to 7% cpu performance gain with ivybridge, and when overclocked, runs hotter then sandybridge OC! what an awesome cpu they released! Hope haswell has a big TOCK release...

Man, SB sucks. It has a lower IPC and uses much more power than Ivy Bridge. Plus it's older and will be EoL soon.

See? I can do it too. IB is a great chip...But of course, you run Sandy.
    
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SB users at their finest.

lol.
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Need a better guitar first! tongue.gif
Man, SB sucks. It has a lower IPC and uses much more power than Ivy Bridge. Plus it's older and will be EoL soon.
See? I can do it too. IB is a great chip...But of course, you run Sandy.

What you mean 1155 is going the way of the dinosaursus?!

lmao.
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What you mean 1155 is going the way of the dinosaursus?!
lmao.

..No, SB is. While it's hardly a slow or crap chip SB will be completely replaced by IB in a few months. (Even SB-e by mid-2013)

To be technical though, 1155 is going the way of the dinosaurs around March to June 2013 due to Haswell.
    
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..No, SB is. While it's hardly a slow or crap chip SB will be completely replaced by IB in a few months. (Even SB-e by mid-2013)
To be technical though, 1155 is going the way of the dinosaurs around March to June 2013 due to Haswell.

That was the joke wink.gif.

A bad joke, I'll give you that!

What's coming next, 1150 for haswell?

I wonder if they'll decide to graduate over quads after IB EoL and kills off 1155.
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That was the joke wink.gif.
A bad joke, I'll give you that!
What's coming next, 1150 for haswell?
I wonder if they'll decide to graduate over quads after IB EoL and kills off 1155.


1150 haswell is still going to be a quad core. No idea about the enthusiast/server parts.
 
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Haswell is not due for at least another 12 months.
Intel will absolutely have another stepping for IVB. Intel is experience growing pains with this immature 22nm process. As they get practice and the process matures, they will learn how to tweak the process to improve yields/leakage. This would warrant a stepping.
That will not work.
One reason for better performance is lower propagation delay.... it takes less time for electrons to move through the chip. If you space the transistors more, then you have to deal with higher propagation delay and greater chances of skew/noise. Then you would have to lower clocks or build additional circuitry to reduce the noise.... and you either get worse performance or a hotter chip.

Well if Haswell is released in 2013 (or beyond), what should we consider as a window for a revised IVB stepping? 3 months? 6 months from now?
So far, MC has only 'slightly' discounted the SB, so it is not compelling - even despite the higher temps.

And I know it's very unOCN of me to say, but if 4.4Ghz is the default no-vcore-bump air OC, I don't think I'd be too unhappy coming from my Lynnfield haha.
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..No, SB is. While it's hardly a slow or crap chip SB will be completely replaced by IB in a few months. (Even SB-e by mid-2013)
To be technical though, 1155 is going the way of the dinosaurs around March to June 2013 due to Haswell.

That was the joke wink.gif.

A bad joke, I'll give you that!

What's coming next, 1150 for haswell?

I wonder if they'll decide to graduate over quads after IB EoL and kills off 1155.

Haswell is quad only. IB-e will have up to 10 cores (No doubt an 8 core 4960X or something, but 10 cores only for Xeons) though.
    
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They should have not released it.. :/
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