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post #11 of 17
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Some advice says that the first thing to overclock for a 965 BE is the hypertransport link as it raises other things with it, is that true?

On an unlocked Phenom II CPU the CPU-NB and HTT frequencies can be adjusted independently but the HTT can never be a higher frequency than the CPU-NB.

The Hypertransport Link (HT or HTL), typically refers to the CPU core (aka FSB) connecting clock frequency, so it's easy to get these two terms confused. Changing the HTL frequency in a locked CPU does change the HTT, CPU-NB and RAM frequencies. Think of it as changing the Front Side Bus (FSB), of an older CPU as "HTL" replaced the FSB in newer AMD CPUs.

Changing the HTT frequency by multiplier or FSB is possible and useful. In overclocking each CPU can respond differently because you're trying to make them run beyond their rated frequency. What works for one CPU doesn't always work for another. A CPU overclocking tutorial gives you information on what has worked for many but it is only a reference as to what may or may not work for your CPU. You'll need to tweak and try to see what works best for your hardware.

http://www.overclockers.com/step-guide-overclock-amd-phenom/
Edited by AMD4ME - 5/4/12 at 7:38pm
post #12 of 17

I think what it meant "HyperTransport Link" refers to the bus clock or reference clock.  Multipliers such as CPU, CPU-NB, etc. are based off the reference clock.  i.e. while 200 x 20 is 4Ghz CPU, 200 x 8 is 1600Mhz RAM.

post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post

I think what it meant "HyperTransport Link" refers to the bus clock or reference clock.  Multipliers such as CPU, CPU-NB, etc. are based off the reference clock.  i.e. while 200 x 20 is 4Ghz CPU, 200 x 8 is 1600Mhz RAM.

Defining HT/HTL and HTT have always been an issue. That is why I posted a reference so the OP could better understand the proper terms and settings to adjust. Even the mobo makers don't use the same terms which makes it confusing. They should have used different terms more easily distinguished IMO but they didn't.
Edited by AMD4ME - 5/5/12 at 11:50am
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You know, there's a business opportunity for someone who can help computer companies translate their manuals and guides into good English, 'cause they sure need it.
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You know, there's a business opportunity for someone who can help computer companies translate their manuals and guides into good English, 'cause they sure need it.

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No kidding
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It's very unfortuante for consumers that the Asian mobo makers have for the most part done a poor job of technically translating their product manuals. The language barrier is even an issue with mobo maker's Tech support (sic). IME of 20+ years of building PCs the Asian mobo makers have not improved their U.S. Tech support very much as they have a very difficult time with the technical English langiage.
post #16 of 17
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Heh, well, I don't know about the technical support, but it seems like it should be an easy job and a small expenditure to run the mauals and leaflets by a native speaker for correction before publication, especially considering the size of some of these companies.

I'm sure there's a niche there, set up a little proof reading company, the mobo maker sends a copy of it's manual, you correct and polish it, send it back, job done.
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post #17 of 17
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Heh, well, I don't know about the technical support, but it seems like it should be an easy job and a small expenditure to run the mauals and leaflets by a native speaker for correction before publication, especially considering the size of some of these companies.
I'm sure there's a niche there, set up a little proof reading company, the mobo maker sends a copy of it's manual, you correct and polish it, send it back, job done.

You'd think if they cared they would have resolved these issues by now but they haven't... One good thing the Asian mobo makers finally started doing was labeling the mobo. 20 years ago not only was the User's Manual almost useless, nothing on the mobo was labeled as these companies use to supply just OEMs. As such you had to guess what RAM channels were which, try to guess what dip switches to set, etc. All of that hassle is gone thankfully but the manuals and Tech support (sic), still suck. redface.gif
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