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That sucks. The whole idea behind people supporting online streaming services was because it freed us from the grip of the greedy cable TV providers. Nice slap in the face.
What about Hulu+ subscribers? We have H+ but no real cable package--what about that?
What about basic/local cable packages? What about the fact that I *could* watch 90% of the things I catch on H just by getting OTA TV?
This is a terrible idea, and I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to abandon Hulu if/when they implement this. Their offering isn't so great that I'd honestly be missing anything that couldn't be substituted with something else.
Well, regardless, they said that this could take years to implement. That's a decent amount of time for another content provider to step up.
edit--Would be nice for a parallel "revolution" in content-supported broadcasting came to life, similar to how musical and comedy artists are creating and hosting their own content, apart from record labels. I'd sooner pay $ direct to an entertainment production as opposed to some ubiquitous cable company.

That would be nice and all... except think for a second about the price involved in premium TV content. It's not as cheap and loading up audacity on your laptop and plugging in a microphone. There's a reason people sell their souls to the cable companies and TV networks.


At any rate, can anyone spell Netflix?
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Netflix.
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post #13 of 75
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That would be nice and all... except think for a second about the price involved in premium TV content. It's not as cheap and loading up audacity on your laptop and plugging in a microphone. There's a reason people sell their souls to the cable companies and TV networks.
At any rate, can anyone spell Netflix?

I think I wasn't clear enough. I don't mean re-broadcasting something for free, I mean a situation where a show is produced, only instead of having a contract with a studio, where the studio gets most of the money from the show, you pay directly to the show itself to watch it. This is a trend that's catching on more and more. For example, comedians have been doing this--Aziz Ansari and Louis C.K. did this, where they hosted their own stand-up performances--like 1.5 hour performances--for $5 direct download via their own site. That's what I mean. Cut the fat cats out--who cares about cable TV providers and networks when we really care about the content we want to see as opposed to who's providing it?
    
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Hulu will ultimately fail because of this move imo. Then Big Media will play it off as piracy and then go to the govt and try to get the internet constricted citing Hulu as a failed business model. But it only failed because it has so many restrictions because of Big Media. Oh man this is so good. Its like watching a lunatic trying to say the world is ending, when its only their world ending because they fail to adapt and the blaming it on the consumer because the consumer just wanted to watch their shows without all the hundreds of hoops.
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So you'll have to have some type of major cable service in order to just "watch for free"? I thought thats what all those ads were for? I don't watch Hulu but have DirecTV...I guess it wouldnt effect me any....unless they use your account number to start tacking on fees which I would be obviously very much against. Just the thought of it makes me not want them to have my service account number.
    
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I think I wasn't clear enough. I don't mean re-broadcasting something for free, I mean a situation where a show is produced, only instead of having a contract with a studio, where the studio gets most of the money from the show, you pay directly to the show itself to watch it. This is a trend that's catching on more and more. For example, comedians have been doing this--Aziz Ansari and Louis C.K. did this, where they hosted their own stand-up performances--like 1.5 hour performances--for $5 direct download via their own site. That's what I mean. Cut the fat cats out--who cares about cable TV providers and networks when we really care about the content we want to see as opposed to who's providing it?

Yes but a stand up comic doesn't have to PAY anything to speak into a mic. Minimal initial costs - so anything that is paid is direct profit.


Imagine trying to produce a season of Battlestar Galactica or w/e is popular with you kiddies these days, without any initial funding from a big rich corporation. If that's not bad enough, imagine the returns aren't great. Now the people who made it are a couple hundred thousand. perhaps a couple billion in debt because they tried to make a good TV show. The trend won't last long.

Without the initial funding and without all the support and advertising for a show, high-production TV shows are too expensive for people to just "up and make" and sell to the public directly.
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Yes but a stand up comic doesn't have to PAY anything to speak into a mic. Minimal initial costs - so anything that is paid is direct profit.
Imagine trying to produce a season of Battlestar Galactica or w/e is popular with you kiddies these days, without any initial funding from a big rich corporation. If that's not bad enough, imagine the returns aren't great. Now the people who made it are a couple hundred thousand. perhaps a couple billion in debt because they tried to make a good TV show. The trend won't last long.
Without the initial funding and without all the support and advertising for a show, high-production TV shows are too expensive for people to just "up and make" and sell to the public directly.

www.kickstarter.com

Don't need big rich corp for the initial funding.
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How would this even benefit hulu?

Cable companies like Comcast-GE, NewsCorp, and Disney-ABC own Hulu.
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Yes but a stand up comic doesn't have to PAY anything to speak into a mic. Minimal initial costs - so anything that is paid is direct profit.
Imagine trying to produce a season of Battlestar Galactica or w/e is popular with you kiddies these days, without any initial funding from a big rich corporation. If that's not bad enough, imagine the returns aren't great. Now the people who made it are a couple hundred thousand. perhaps a couple billion in debt because they tried to make a good TV show. The trend won't last long.
Without the initial funding and without all the support and advertising for a show, high-production TV shows are too expensive for people to just "up and make" and sell to the public directly.

The reason why shows are so expensive is because of the network/record label. Much in the same way that music and movies are.

Of course my examples using already well-known celebs aren't the same case for some no-name person, but it's not like funding isn't available to support such ideas outside of network/Cable TV. It's only been the case that people haven't strayed outside of them until now.

I'm not talking about some loaner in their basement making a BSG-esque show on their own. Of course this would be within a group, but it would be outside of the cable TV provider that takes a huge portion of the money just to host the content. With hosting content being as easy as uploading the file to a server, you don't need a content provider anymore.

Again, I'm not talking about making something for free--I'm talking about providing the show (or whatever) without involving a network. There would still be some sort of payment by viewers, but it wouldn't go to a fat-cat cable TV provider, it would go to a show. I don't know, what, $0.99 an episode? One million viewers gets you a million bucks straight to your company. $26m for a season of episodes. $26/year to watch it. Whereas people are paying $100 per MONTH just for a cable TV plan. I don't know if that's even reasonable, I'm just throwing out examples. I see no good reason for cable TV now that there are simpler and cheaper provider/distribution mechanisms. It's supporting an antiquated system just because it would mean change.

Yes, I'm discussing this in a simplified case, but it doesn't negate the value or appeal.
    
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I could never quite swallow the idea of paying a monthly free to still be shown ads. Glad I held off the urge to subscribe.
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