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Hey OCN,

Is anyone else here disappointed in the thermals that Ivy's putting out? I'm outraged that Intel is making us go Extreme Watercooling to get temperatures equal to Sandy Bridge on 5Ghz overclocks. This extreme heat is totally uncharacteristic of Intel for the last 5 or 6 years. Understandably, Ivy Bridge (3770K & 3570K products) represent the latest & greatest new technology which overclockers are going to snatch up quickly, but there is no REAL performance benefit compared to overclocked Sandy Bridge chips. Remember the last 4 years? Remember how much faster an overclocked i7-920 was compared to a OC Q9450? How about the difference you got with an overclocked i7-2600K compared to a OC i7-920? Now a maxed out 3770K = a maxed out 2600K? You've got to be kidding me! Give me a freaking break. Intel should have shelved this until thermals, tri-gate, TIM, finfet was under control. But congrats, water cooling is now worth it for a change.

Who wants to hear bad news about the latest tech, especially with the always disappointing BD lurching out there? Ivy's strong point from a raw performance perspective is LN2, Chilled water, tec, dice, and the new multiplier. Perhaps Intel's saving the Iridium for SBE, just to keep future thermals in line with the rest of the current 3rd gen Core uArch. Those of you here with 3770K, what victory shall you claim over a 2700K, carry on... mad.gif
post #2 of 32
LOL all your comparisons are

Tock vs Tock besides the 2600k vs 3770k which was a tock vs tick or vise versa.

It does beat 2700k's at stock clocks and uses less power ipc is up 5%. Its not a small step forward.

and beware the smaller the die the more heat becomes an issue.
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You're outraged that a chip cannot overclock to 5ghz on air?

You must be new to the overclocking scene. So far Sandy has been proven to be the exception, not the rule.

Ivy was aimed at lowering power consumption (also to act as a trial for tri-gate). Mission accomplished. It is a bummer that the TDP's didn't go down at all, however.
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post #4 of 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared Pace View Post

*Snip*. Those of you here with 3770K, what victory shall you claim over a 2700K, carry on... mad.gif

you mean besides getting roughly 5% more performance for the same price plus the thermal limit is higher on these chips if your buying new 1155 right now no reasion not to go ivy bridge
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Originally Posted by Jared Pace View Post

Hey OCN,
Is anyone else here disappointed in the thermals that Ivy's putting out? I'm outraged that Intel is making us go Extreme Watercooling to get temperatures equal to Sandy Bridge on 5Ghz overclocks. This extreme heat is totally uncharacteristic of Intel for the last 5 or 6 years. Understandably, Ivy Bridge (3770K & 3570K products) represent the latest & greatest new technology which overclockers are going to snatch up quickly, but there is no REAL performance benefit compared to overclocked Sandy Bridge chips. Remember the last 4 years? Remember how much faster an overclocked i7-920 was compared to a OC Q9450? How about the difference you got with an overclocked i7-2600K compared to a OC i7-920? Now a maxed out 3770K = a maxed out 2600K? You've got to be kidding me! Give me a freaking break. Intel should have shelved this until thermals, tri-gate, TIM, finfet was under control. But congrats, water cooling is now worth it for a change.
Who wants to hear bad news about the latest tech, especially with the always disappointing BD lurching out there? Ivy's strong point from a raw performance perspective is LN2, Chilled water, tec, dice, and the new multiplier. Perhaps Intel's saving the Iridium for SBE, just to keep future thermals in line with the rest of the current 3rd gen Core uArch. Those of you here with 3770K, what victory shall you claim over a 2700K, carry on... mad.gif

lol no. Ivy maybe is hot but is really resilient in temps. If you get a good chip you can go 4,8-4,9. Like sb. Not all sb can pass the 4,5. If you get a good ivy then ivy>sb if you get a decent ivy then ivy=sb
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Well people can get 5Ghz with air cant they? NHD-14? thumb.gif
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IVY was not supposed to be a Sandy Bridge killer by any means. It makes no sense going from Sandy to IVY unless you really want the E-Peen. Haswell is where it going to be for Sandy Users

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post #8 of 32
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Originally Posted by KuuFA View Post

LOL all your comparisons are
Tock vs Tock besides the 2600k vs 3770k which was a tock vs tick or vise versa.

That right there. This is EXACTLY what was expected, nothing more, nothing less.

Of course a tock vs tick is going to be very similar....that is the way it has ALWAYS been.

People are ridiculous sometimes with how much they don't realize things. This would be the same as comparing the q6600 65nm to the q8*** that were 45nm, they had pretty much the same performance.....

You are MAKING THE WRONG COMPARISONS.

Compare Haswell to Sandybridge, tock vs tock, then you will get the big bump you want.
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post #9 of 32
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Well people can get 5Ghz with air cant they? NHD-14? thumb.gif

5ghz on air is a pipe dream for most users 4.6-4.8 tops is more realistic
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My 965 be can do 4 ghz. But i use 3,8 ghz for 24/7. The next week i am bying 3570 and with a 4,6 overclock 24/7 i will be happy.
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